# Do American women prefer circumcised lovers?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-american-women-prefer-circumcised-lovers/161893>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 17, 2003, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-american-women-prefer-circumcised-lovers/161893 "2003-03-17T02:00:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Judith\_Prietht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b19c9b/32.png) [@Judith\_Prietht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Judith_Prietht)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2003, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-american-women-prefer-circumcised-lovers/161893/61 "2003-03-19T17:29:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by auntie em \*  
> \*\*I’m not really qualified to weigh in on the OP, since I’ve had no experience with un-circumcised men (however, my mom and sister swear that they can tell, by the smell of the bacon, if the pig it came from was un-circumcised, and in that case they won’t eat it :eek: ).  
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:eek: right back atchya. I think I need a few more details on how and why as a concerned and regular consumer of bacon. Or am I simply drowning in innuendo?

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**Author:** ![auntie\_em](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@auntie\_em](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/auntie_em)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2003, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-american-women-prefer-circumcised-lovers/161893/62 "2003-03-19T18:31:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Judith Prietht \*  
> \*\*:eek: right back atchya. I think I need a few more details on how and why as a concerned and regular consumer of bacon. Or am I simply drowning in innuendo? \*\*

Well, since I am not blessed with this particular olfactory “gift”, I don’t know how much I can tell you–both Mom and Sis have described it as a “musky and/or rancid smell”, which occurs when the bacon is cooking. It was awhile ago that the issue first came up; I was frying up some strips for a bacon sandwich, and my sister came down the stairs crying, “EWWW–uncircumcised pork!”

Just the thought of it turned me off of my sandwich, but strangely, I never actually clarified the issue until recently, when I was mentioning the phenomenon to my SO. He wondered if there wasn’t some _other_ definition of “uncircumcised”, applied specifically to pork or pork products, because surely, he thought, my sister could not have meant that the bacon came from a male pig with foreskin intact, _and that she could tell by smelling it_!

And why, he wondered, would anyone bother to circumcise a pig???

So I mentioned it to my mother, expecting her to laugh her ass off at my sister’s insanity (we all do). In this instance, however, she said that YES, my sister DID mean that the bacon came from a male pig whose foreskin had been left intact and YES, you can tell this by the smell of the bacon when you cook it. She couldn’t believe I’d never experienced this.

Yet strangely enough, neither of them has ever mentioned the issue in terms of pork chops, or ham (neither of which I like anyway), only bacon (WHICH. I. LOVE!).

What, is bacon secretly made _from_ pig penis??? 😕

Sorry for the hijack.

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**Author:** ![Seldon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seldon)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2003, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-american-women-prefer-circumcised-lovers/161893/63 "2003-03-19T18:42:38Z")

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When my son was born, I didn’t care either way whether to snip or not to snip. But my husband, on the other hand, would not even consider not getting him snipped. Really was wierd about it. So we went ahead and had it done.

I talked to my mom about this, and she said that my father was unsnipped, and he was adamant about having his sons have it done. Something about being different in the locker room. From what everyone’s been posting here, I don’t think that’s really the case anymore.

As for me as a woman preferring either way for a sexual partner, I’ve only been with one guy who was unsnipped. He didn’t care for himself and it was way gross. So, now that I’m married to a snipped man and it doesn’t matter anymore, it’s good to find out that all uncircumsized men are not nasty.

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**Author:** ![fusoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@fusoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fusoya)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2003, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-american-women-prefer-circumcised-lovers/161893/64 "2003-03-19T18:50:41Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ruby \*  
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> Another reason parents made the decision to cut was that they wanted their son to look like “everyone else”. \*\*

Hmm, well I’m still 100% whole and my parents always encouraged me to be unique. Correlation??

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**Author:** ![auntie\_em](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@auntie\_em](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/auntie_em)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2003, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-american-women-prefer-circumcised-lovers/161893/65 "2003-03-19T18:57:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by fusoya \*  
> \*\*Hmm, well I’m still 100% whole and my parents always encouraged me to be unique. Correlation?? \*\*

Maybe so, in which case you’re lucky all the _other_ parents \*weren’t \*leaving their sons intact at the time! 😉

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2003, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-american-women-prefer-circumcised-lovers/161893/66 "2003-03-19T21:24:31Z")

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Word to the wise: Uncut men should also master the Vacuum Breast technique.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-american-women-prefer-circumcised-lovers/161893/67 "2003-03-20T05:36:24Z")

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> So after conceding that it is unpleasant, and without offering one iota of reasoned argument as to why the snip should be done (other than daddy did it to me so I’m going to do it to you) you suggest that it is better to do it to newborn babies who can’t complain and have no choice?

Listen, it’s not the baby’s choice if he gets circumcised. Are you of the logic becuase its his body his choice? Sorry but this just isn’t true. By that logic, I should have let my baby go nameless untill he was old enough to decide for himself what he wanted to be called, or better yet, if my baby was deformed with a gimp leg I should let him keep it that way untill he’s old enough to decide if he wants to operate.

BTW, **Princhester** earlier in this thread you asked a question; “whats the hurry” I then gave you my answer. You then fired back with a smart assed attitude. Sorry if I offended you, I didn’t realize you were so fragile. But here I’ll try to make it better:

OK **Princhester** YOU WIN!

There feel better now?

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-american-women-prefer-circumcised-lovers/161893/68 "2003-03-20T05:40:39Z")

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If anyone needs any straw, there’s a big man-sized pile going to waste, SHAKES gave it to me (thanks SHAKES) but I have no use for it personally.

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**Author:** ![bernse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@bernse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bernse)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-american-women-prefer-circumcised-lovers/161893/69 "2003-03-20T06:10:24Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Cervaise \*  
> \*\*Word to the wise: Uncut men should also master the Vacuum Breast technique. \*\*

😕

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**Author:** ![skaterboarder87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@skaterboarder87](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skaterboarder87)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-american-women-prefer-circumcised-lovers/161893/70 "2003-03-20T06:20:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SHAKES \*  
> **Listen, it’s not the baby’s choice if he gets circumcised. Are you of the logic becuase its his body his choice? Sorry but this just isn’t true. By that logic, I should have let my baby go nameless untill he was old enough to decide for himself what he wanted to be called, or better yet, if my baby was deformed with a gimp leg I should let him keep it that way untill he’s old enough to decide if he wants to operate.**

This ignorant statement is wrong on so many levels.

Naming a child does not affect the physical appearance of the child, nor does it inflict physical pain. The child, upon reaching adult hood, is then able to alter his name to whatever they’d prefer. One cannot restore the foreskin (except in extreme cases, and even then it’s obvious reconstructive surgery was performed).

With one point shot down, onto number 2, the “gimp leg”. What you’re referring to is a physical deformity that can and will affect the child’s performance and possibly acceptance in today’s society. Last I checked, foreskin was not a physical abnormality nor does it hinder one’s performance.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-american-women-prefer-circumcised-lovers/161893/71 "2003-03-20T07:27:01Z")

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> This ignorant statement is wrong on so many levels.

Damn! This is turning into a pile on **SHAKES** thread.

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> Naming a child does not affect the physical appearance of the child, nor does it inflict physical pain. The child, upon reaching adult hood, is then able to alter his name to whatever they’d prefer. One cannot restore the foreskin (except in extreme cases, and even then it’s obvious reconstructive surgery was performed).

All true, but I think your still missing my point. There are some decisions we, as parents, have to make for our children. As I’ve said before its highly unlikely that your children will be pissed at you for having it done.

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> …and will affect the child’s performance and possibly acceptance in today’s society…

Ah… I wasn’t going to bring this up but after you saying that I think I will.

I’ve had plenty of girls tell me that they are not too fond of un-cut wankers. (I’m puting it more mildly than they did) Now is this shallow? Sure it is, but it still doesn’t change the fact that its true. Now on the reverse side of that I’m sure there are women out there who would say something to the effect of… “ewe… a circumcised penis!” But I would venture to say that its way less common than the before mentioned. (at least here in America)

And no, I don’t have a cite.

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**Author:** ![skaterboarder87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@skaterboarder87](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skaterboarder87)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-american-women-prefer-circumcised-lovers/161893/72 "2003-03-20T07:35:22Z")

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Judging by the opinions in this thread, I’d say the rate of women preferring uncircumcised to circumcised is at least 50/50 (if not in favor of the uncircumcised). Granted, this is but a small sample of opinions, but it’s still a larger and more diverse pool of opinions than your small sample of friends and family could provide.

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**Author:** ![Tinkertoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f19dbf/32.png) [@Tinkertoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tinkertoy)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-american-women-prefer-circumcised-lovers/161893/73 "2003-03-20T07:49:40Z")

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I perfer snipped. But I think that’s because my first husband wasn’t and was a lousy lover and not very cleanly there. I was constantly getting yeast infections. My second husband is a great lover and very clean. I really think if a man takes care of his hygene it probably wouldn’t matter.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-american-women-prefer-circumcised-lovers/161893/74 "2003-03-20T08:36:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by skaterboarder87 \*  
> \*\*Judging by the opinions in this thread, I’d say the rate of women preferring uncircumcised to circumcised is at least 50/50 (if not in favor of the uncircumcised). Granted, this is but a small sample of opinions, but it’s still a larger and more diverse pool of opinions than your small sample of friends and family could provide. \*\*

Well I’d say the majority of this board is _apathetic_ towards this subject. But yeah for the most part your right. The only problem I have with using this board as a sample is; Not everyone on this board is completely honest when it comes to stuff like this. If I wasn’t at work right now I’d come up with some links to give you some examples. But anyway the jist of what I’m trying to say is sometimes people will say something just to gain acceptence. Especialy when it come to stuff like this. As a matter of fact I bet that I could start a thread asking “Hey non-handicaped people would you date some one in a wheelchair?” and most of the people in that thread would say “Sure I would becuase what really counts is on the inside” (oh boy) Myself I think its all BS. A lot of those people who say that are not being honest; they just want acceptance.

But hey, maybe I’m just a cynic.

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**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-american-women-prefer-circumcised-lovers/161893/75 "2003-03-20T08:46:45Z")

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I’m cut. My son is not. The fact that he isn’t was actually totally by accident.

My next son, assuming I have another, will probalby be not cut as well.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2003, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-american-women-prefer-circumcised-lovers/161893/76 "2003-03-20T09:19:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SHAKES \*.  
> There are some decisions we, as parents, _ **have to** _ make for our children.

[my emphasis]

The problem with your position is right there. Justify “have to”.

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> I’ve had plenty of girls tell me that they are not too fond of un-cut _ **wankers** _.

[my emphasis again]

Do I detect a strange animosity here? Is there a particular reason you use the term “wankers” and not a neutral term like “men”?

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-american-women-prefer-circumcised-lovers/161893/77 "2003-03-21T01:45:07Z")

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> _I mentioned the_  
> **Vacuum Breast technique**
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> _and bernse responded_  
> \*\*😕 \*\*

[Start here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&postid=881102#post881102).

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**Author:** ![mangeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@mangeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mangeorge)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-american-women-prefer-circumcised-lovers/161893/78 "2003-03-21T02:42:11Z")

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My ex-wife, who wasn’t a virgin when we married, didn’t even notice that I wasn’t circumsized until we had been married for a couple of years. We _both_ liked doing “it” with the lights on. She saw it, but it didn’t sink in.  
BTW; You know about pussy farts, right? Well, you can do a modified version with the foreskin.  
Just thought that would be interesting. 😛  
Peace,  
mangeorge

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**Author:** ![pokey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ebca7d/32.png) [@pokey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pokey)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2003, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-american-women-prefer-circumcised-lovers/161893/79 "2003-03-21T04:37:35Z")

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I want to put in a vote for **uncircumcised** even though I’m not American. More than half the men I’ve been with are circumcised and I don’t find it horrifying or anything but I’m more comfortable with the natural penis. I’m way more comfortable handling it to be blunt. I’ve never known anyone who smelled bad down there and I don’t think it’s an issue.

I did know a guy who had to get his foreskin operated on because it was too tight. I asked him if it happened because he didn’t play with it enough growing up and he said yes. He had funny scar tissue on his foreskin from it. Let that be a lesson to him.

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**Author:** ![Nametag](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nametag/32/406_2.png) [@Nametag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nametag)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-american-women-prefer-circumcised-lovers/161893/80 "2003-03-25T18:32:58Z")

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Circumcised pigs? I’m not a pig farmer, but I’m pretty sure that pigs have a totally retractable penis, rather as dogs do, and thus have no foreskin and cannot be circumcised.

Sorry, auntie em, but I think your mom and your sister are nuts.

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