# Do Catholic's face discrimination in the US? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 4, 2003, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-catholics-face-discrimination-in-the-us/173017 "2003-05-04T14:29:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-catholics-face-discrimination-in-the-us/173017/61 "2003-05-08T14:34:32Z")
Bricker: As it turns out, it doesn’t matter that Milum is out of date. What he offered up as proof of his assertion had nothing to do with his assertion. Milum: The way you debate in Alabama isn’t the way most people debate in Alabama. From my experience with debating folks from the Heart of Dixie, most folks told the truth. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-catholics-face-discrimination-in-the-us/173017/62 "2003-05-08T14:38:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Monty \* > \*\*I suppose I should be happy that Milum says I’m a young fellow. It’s been a few years since I’ve qualified as young. \*\* nope. Yer still young, dude. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-catholics-face-discrimination-in-the-us/173017/63 "2003-05-08T15:54:08Z")
> [@](#): > > I personally dislike pretty much all religions because, to methey seem to do nothing, but convince people that they deserve better treatment then others, that others not like them should be punished, and the like. Cite? > [@](#): > > I really dislike the Catholics though for a lot of reasons. For one thing, the pope is a joke. He has been calling for peace and such in the world, which I agree with, but he seems to find it ok that other’s in his sect are ok with molesting alter boys and the like. And since, in fact, the church members were practically calling for blood when this story broke, I am left wondering who exactly, aside from the perpetrators, are “ok” with sex abuse? > [@](#): > > Also, I tend to see the Catholics as a large hate group at times. Sometimes, it seems that all they are out to do, is tell others that their ways are wrong and evil, just because they don’t agree with everything they say. Such as? I don’t recall any Catholic preachers up there teling the world that XXX group is bound for hell. > [@](#): > > I don’t believe in a “God” myself so, in my opinon the Catholics are just following a small group of people, including the pope, who want to control people’s lives. Given the immense lack of control n people’s lives the RCC has, I must wonder exactly where you got this impression. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-catholics-face-discrimination-in-the-us/173017/64 "2003-05-08T16:23:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by smiling bandit \* > > > [@](#): > > > > I personally dislike pretty much all religions because, to methey seem to do nothing, but convince people that they deserve better treatment then others, that others not like them should be punished, and the like. > > **Cite?** I’s a bit silly, **smiling bandit** , to ask for a cite for something that’s clearly stated to be a personal opinion. If I said “I personally prefer the taste of fish over the taste of chicken”, you couldn’t reasonably expect me to provide any kind of cite for that. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-catholics-face-discrimination-in-the-us/173017/65 "2003-05-08T16:41:54Z")
Yes, but he doesn’t even give a reason why. He’s accusing a whole group in a rather unpleasant manner and isn’t even bothering to tell me _why_, and why he includes Catholics. ---
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-catholics-face-discrimination-in-the-us/173017/66 "2003-05-08T17:17:10Z")
Mine was only a minor point of order, **smiling bandit**. I didn’t object to anything else you said about **TearsOfGlass** ’s rant. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2003, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-catholics-face-discrimination-in-the-us/173017/67 "2003-05-08T18:58:21Z")
[Insert your own depressing-ounding Spanish saying or Latin quote] ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2003, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-catholics-face-discrimination-in-the-us/173017/68 "2003-05-09T14:05:52Z")
How many Catholics does it take to change a light bulb? Three! . . . But they’re really only one. ---
**Author:** ![\_Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/e47c2d/32.png) [@\_Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_Tim)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2003, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-catholics-face-discrimination-in-the-us/173017/69 "2003-05-09T14:41:48Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by **Bricker** > > > [@](#): > > > > Originally posted by **TearsOfGlass** > > Sometimes, it seems that all they are out to do, is tell others that their ways are wrong and evil, just because they don’t agree with everything they say. > > So … you’re telling us that Catholics are wrong - and possibly even evil - because you don’t agree with everything they say? > > And they’re wrong, and evil, because they don’t agree with everything you say? > > Gotcha. No, that’s not what was said. > [@](#): > > I personally dislike … A value judgement was made here, but no moral judgement based on dogma (i.e. the post does not call anyone, even the Roman Catholic Church, “evil”.) There is no hypocricy in proclaiming dislike for those who make moral judgements based on dogma. If there had been a claim in the parent post that others were morally wrong or evil **Bricker** might have had a point. As it is, **Bricker** is being sarcastic to a strawman. Gotcha. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-catholics-face-discrimination-in-the-us/173017.md?page=3)