# Do City Horses Always Look Bored? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 15, 2011, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-city-horses-always-look-bored/602999 "2011-11-15T12:25:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BeaMyra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2bfe46/32.png) [@BeaMyra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeaMyra)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-city-horses-always-look-bored/602999/1 "2011-11-15T12:25:29Z")
I was walking on the Magnificent Mile of Chicago and they have a lot of horse drawn carriages. All the horses have the same expression on their faces while they’re pulling the carriages. They all look like “God is this boring!” or, “I am so bored with this job” Being a city girl I have no idea what a horse’s normal expression is. They don’t seem to have this look while they are sitting in line with other horses waiting for someone to pull. And on that subject, in general what do animal lovers think of horses pulling people for a living? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-city-horses-always-look-bored/602999/2 "2011-11-15T14:44:42Z")
In my friend’s Cinema Of The Absurd film _Zombie! Vs. Mardi Gras_ there’s a shot of one of the horses (or was it a mule?) that pulls carriages in New Orleans. The animal thinks, ‘The whip is in my head! The whip is in my head! There _is no wagon!_’ ---
**Author:** ![PapSett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@PapSett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PapSett)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-city-horses-always-look-bored/602999/3 "2011-11-15T15:28:51Z")
I am a HUGE horse lover and I don’t have a problem with them pulling carriages as long as they are well cared for. It’s what they do. It’s no worse than someone going to work everyday- we may all have that same bored expression on our faces! 😛 You can definitely tell when a horse is interested in something- ears will come forward, muscles tense, the head comes up. Bored horses usually have their lips loos, ears floppy, eyes half closed. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-city-horses-always-look-bored/602999/4 "2011-11-15T15:40:06Z")
I would think that for a horse in the city, with lots of people, cars, noise, and distractions, a bored horse is exactly what you want. ---
**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-city-horses-always-look-bored/602999/5 "2011-11-15T15:44:59Z")
> [@PapSett](#): > > I am a HUGE horse lover and I don’t have a problem with them pulling carriages as long as they are well cared for. It’s what they do. It’s no worse than someone going to work everyday- we may all have that same bored expression on our faces! 😛 Agreed on all counts. Horses, with a few exceptions, don’t really care much for excitment. They love their routines and knowing what they’re supposed to do. As **Telemark** notes, the “been there, done that” attitude is a wonderful attribute in a carriage horse! Also, given their druthers they will spend the day a)standing around doing nothing and b)walking around – so what they do “at work” isn’t tremendously different from what they would do “not at work.” ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-city-horses-always-look-bored/602999/6 "2011-11-15T15:45:44Z")
But do they hate bicycle messengers as much as the rest of us do? ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-city-horses-always-look-bored/602999/7 "2011-11-15T15:57:48Z")
I agree with **PapSett** - as long as an animal is well cared-for, I don’t have an issue with them being expected to work for their daily bread. Horses wouldn’t have a place in this country if they were all pasture pets. And bored is good in a carriage horse - you can look up “combined driving” if you want to see carriage horses having fun! Every day I tell my dogs, “I’m off to earn your dogfood”. I’m not thrilled about it either, but between the dogs, cats and horses, I have 15 mouths to feed. Such is life. StG ---
**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-city-horses-always-look-bored/602999/8 "2011-11-15T16:17:09Z")
Plenty food and water, not particularly strenuous exercise, no natural predators… Sounds like horse heaven to me. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-city-horses-always-look-bored/602999/9 "2011-11-15T16:20:01Z")
Ask one of them sometime. “Why the long face?” ---
**Author:** ![FlyByNight512](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/82dd89/32.png) [@FlyByNight512](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyByNight512)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-city-horses-always-look-bored/602999/10 "2011-11-15T17:11:00Z")
Agreed with all of the above - while there have been some cases of mistreated carriage horses, the great majority of them are very well loved and cared for by their drivers. And bored ain’t bad - they look like that most of the time when they’re lounging around a pasture, too. The biggest concern I’m aware of is that turnout space is really limited in the middle of the city, so when they’re not on duty the horses spend most of their time in stalls. They get exercise pulling the carriages, and they may get some time in whatever small arena the carriage facility has, but they don’t get a whole lot of time or space to run around and just be a horse. A lot of carriage companies have a farm somewhere outside the city and try to get the horses out there for a couple of months out of the year (or whenever their driver says they need a vacation), which I think is a good compromise. I also think it’s really beneficial to humans to have animals in our daily lives. The carriage horses are as close to a horse as most city people will ever get, and I’d hate to see that ended. I think it’s good for all of us. ---
**Author:** ![pbbth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f9ae1b/32.png) [@pbbth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pbbth)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-city-horses-always-look-bored/602999/11 "2011-11-15T17:22:02Z")
Carriage horses all sort of have that look here in NYC too. As best as I can tell they are very happy pulling carriages as it gives them something to do and every time I’ve seen a ride end (and on the one ride we actually took) the cabbie gives you a carrot to feed the horse when the ride is over. I know I would like my job a lot more if every time I finished a task my boss gave me a cookie! ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-city-horses-always-look-bored/602999/12 "2011-11-15T17:32:09Z")
> [@PapSett](#): > > It’s no worse than someone going to work everyday- we may all have that same bored expression on our faces! 😛 Especially if our jobs are highly repetitive. I mean, they walk the same circuit over and over every day, how interested would you really expect them to be? As for the working, meh. Nobody breeds a horse as a pasture ornament. They either carry people or pull loads; that’s why we domesticated them, that’s why we developed all these different breeds, that’s why we continue breeding them today. ---
**Author:** ![FlyByNight512](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/82dd89/32.png) [@FlyByNight512](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyByNight512)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-city-horses-always-look-bored/602999/13 "2011-11-15T18:11:00Z")
> [@CrazyCatLady](#): > > Especially if our jobs are highly repetitive. I mean, they walk the same circuit over and over every day, how interested would you really expect them to be? Yeah, but most of us have a higher IQ than a horse. Usually. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Avarie537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/48db29/32.png) [@Avarie537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avarie537)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-city-horses-always-look-bored/602999/14 "2011-11-16T00:33:11Z")
> [@FlyByNight512](#): > > Agreed with all of the above - while there have been some cases of mistreated carriage horses, the great majority of them are very well loved and cared for by their drivers. And bored ain’t bad - they look like that most of the time when they’re lounging around a pasture, too. The biggest concern I’m aware of is that turnout space is really limited in the middle of the city, so when they’re not on duty the horses spend most of their time in stalls. They get exercise pulling the carriages, and they may get some time in whatever small arena the carriage facility has, but they don’t get a whole lot of time or space to run around and just be a horse. **A lot of carriage companies have a farm somewhere outside the city and try to get the horses out there for a couple of months out of the year (or whenever their driver says they need a vacation), which I think is a good compromise.** > . One of the carriage companies in Indianapolis rotates their horses (IIRC) weekly, so they get time off very frequently. Also, they do have an outdoor paddock for daily turn-out. (We visited their facility as vet tech students.) Using Google maps, I see that the other carriage company in town also has paddock space.