# Do democrats want illegal alien votes? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [December 14, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-democrats-want-illegal-alien-votes/606195 "2011-12-14T17:34:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 26
**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2011, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-democrats-want-illegal-alien-votes/606195/26 "2011-12-15T00:24:33Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > First - forgetting illegals, what do you feel about non-citizens voting? > > Second, remember “no taxation without representation?” If you are opposed to legal non-citizens voting in municipal elections, do you think they should be excused from paying taxes since they have no voice in how their tax money is spent? Come on. There is plenty of “taxation without representation” in the U.S. and everywhere else. Tourists pay them too. I am very much anti illegal-immigration but I don’t think illegal immigrants are terrible people. I would be one of the first ones swimming the Rio Grande if I was a poor person in Mexico but it still doesn’t make it right. We shouldn’t just grant rights to illegal aliens ad-hoc and piecemeal. It sends the wrong message and doesn’t address the underlying issues. Illegal immigration is a root cause of many problems in this country with lots of different groups that are culpable including some businesses and politicians. There is nothing good about it compared to setting a reasonable policy in the first place and sticking to it. Right now, illegal immigrants face some degree of risks by doing what they do. We shouldn’t suddenly start mass imprisoning and deporting them as a whole but we shouldn’t do anything further to encourage the behavior either. The whole idea needs to rebuilt and rethought from scratch and this time everyone really has to play by the clearly defined rules. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-democrats-want-illegal-alien-votes/606195)._