# Do flat earthers actually believe their stated beliefs? Or are they just having a laugh at taking up space in our heads? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 18, 2024, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-flat-earthers-actually-believe-their-stated-beliefs-or-are-they-just-having-a-laugh-at-taking-up-space-in-our-heads/1010380 "2024-11-18T02:00:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-flat-earthers-actually-believe-their-stated-beliefs-or-are-they-just-having-a-laugh-at-taking-up-space-in-our-heads/1010380/61 "2024-11-19T01:00:31Z")
That would be their \*ATV…and they’ll go running lest it fall over the edge. You’ve lost them. (Polaris is a brand name) ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-flat-earthers-actually-believe-their-stated-beliefs-or-are-they-just-having-a-laugh-at-taking-up-space-in-our-heads/1010380/62 "2024-11-19T01:05:09Z")
The Oh No Ross and Carrie podcast did a multi-episode dive into flat earthers, including a field trip to the Salton Sea for a real-world test. Link to first episode: [Ross and Carrie Traverse Flat Earth (Part 1): Pizza-Shaped Earth Edition](https://ohnopodcast.com/investigations/2017/11/7/ross-and-carrie-traverse-flat-earth-part-1-pizza-shaped-earth-edition) Video of Salton Sea test: [When Skeptics Meet Deniers - CFI Investigations Group tests Flat Earth claims](https://youtu.be/CnrjdD08dWg?feature=shared) ---
**Author:** ![vbob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vbob/32/4439_2.png) [@vbob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vbob)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-flat-earthers-actually-believe-their-stated-beliefs-or-are-they-just-having-a-laugh-at-taking-up-space-in-our-heads/1010380/63 "2024-11-19T01:11:20Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > but sought plans to render it flat When our co-op finally got some earthmoving equipment we proudly announced ‘Some folks think the earth is flat, but we have the power to make it so!’ ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-flat-earthers-actually-believe-their-stated-beliefs-or-are-they-just-having-a-laugh-at-taking-up-space-in-our-heads/1010380/64 "2024-11-19T01:45:27Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Piper surreptitiously puts his favourite hat back in the closet. I have a green one, and i will wear mine if you will. Of course, hardly 'all the time". ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-flat-earthers-actually-believe-their-stated-beliefs-or-are-they-just-having-a-laugh-at-taking-up-space-in-our-heads/1010380/65 "2024-11-19T03:42:38Z")
Moderating: We have more than enough political threads right now, let’s keep politics out of this one, please. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-flat-earthers-actually-believe-their-stated-beliefs-or-are-they-just-having-a-laugh-at-taking-up-space-in-our-heads/1010380/66 "2024-11-19T07:42:08Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > The Earth is glove-shaped and we live on the middle finger Are [we lost](https://atomicshrimp.com/post/2010/12/05/Lost-Gloves)? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-flat-earthers-actually-believe-their-stated-beliefs-or-are-they-just-having-a-laugh-at-taking-up-space-in-our-heads/1010380/67 "2024-11-19T16:50:16Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > The only person on Youtube that I think honestly believes in a flat Earth is CC. Chris from Westchester County. New York. He was the first one I thought of. He’s a regular on [SciManDan’s](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=scimandan+channel) Flat-Earth Fridays. He seems sincere and one or two occasions his wife has passed by in the background of one of his episodes making it plain she doesn’t share his beliefs. At least he doesn’t insult the people he’s trying to persuade (I’m lookin’ at _you_, [Eric Dubay](https://youtu.be/xHH5b4-_Icw)). As mentioned above, some love thinking they’re the smartest people in the room and have outfoxed NASA with all its billions, other because the Bible says so, and of course, some are both. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-flat-earthers-actually-believe-their-stated-beliefs-or-are-they-just-having-a-laugh-at-taking-up-space-in-our-heads/1010380/68 "2024-11-19T17:10:28Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > At least he doesn’t insult the people he’s trying to persuade And he’ll admit he doesn’t know how something works although he believes in it unlike the charlatans that will make stuff up like “electro-dimensional flux”. I do want a tshirt of Sir SIC with CC’s hair. He’s put that picture in his debunking a couple of times and it is glorious. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-flat-earthers-actually-believe-their-stated-beliefs-or-are-they-just-having-a-laugh-at-taking-up-space-in-our-heads/1010380/69 "2024-11-19T17:27:10Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > (Polaris is a brand name) Also a band name. [They](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaris_(American_band)) played the intro to The Adventures of Pete and Pete. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-flat-earthers-actually-believe-their-stated-beliefs-or-are-they-just-having-a-laugh-at-taking-up-space-in-our-heads/1010380/70 "2024-11-19T18:15:46Z")
It came up several times in this thread that the Bible says the earth is flat. Is that true? Where does the Bible say that? ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-flat-earthers-actually-believe-their-stated-beliefs-or-are-they-just-having-a-laugh-at-taking-up-space-in-our-heads/1010380/71 "2024-11-19T18:27:28Z")
Something about the “4 corners of the Earth.” ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-flat-earthers-actually-believe-their-stated-beliefs-or-are-they-just-having-a-laugh-at-taking-up-space-in-our-heads/1010380/72 "2024-11-19T18:40:14Z")
That does not require a flat rectangular Earth. It could be tetrahedral, for example. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-flat-earthers-actually-believe-their-stated-beliefs-or-are-they-just-having-a-laugh-at-taking-up-space-in-our-heads/1010380/73 "2024-11-19T18:53:30Z")
But belief in a tetrahedral Earth would require more than a 4th grade education in geometry. Lotsa these folks stopped at squares, circles, rectangles, and triangles. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-flat-earthers-actually-believe-their-stated-beliefs-or-are-they-just-having-a-laugh-at-taking-up-space-in-our-heads/1010380/74 "2024-11-19T18:59:49Z")
Tetrahedron? Platonic solid? Heathen! Pagan! Burn it! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-flat-earthers-actually-believe-their-stated-beliefs-or-are-they-just-having-a-laugh-at-taking-up-space-in-our-heads/1010380/75 "2024-11-19T20:38:14Z")
North - west - south - east? What is the actual line? ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-flat-earthers-actually-believe-their-stated-beliefs-or-are-they-just-having-a-laugh-at-taking-up-space-in-our-heads/1010380/76 "2024-11-19T20:49:04Z")
I still have a sneaky feeling that CC from New York is an actor. It would make sense that he still uploaded his videos where he gets interrupted by his wife. All done for laughs. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-flat-earthers-actually-believe-their-stated-beliefs-or-are-they-just-having-a-laugh-at-taking-up-space-in-our-heads/1010380/77 "2024-11-19T20:57:16Z")
> [@blondebear](#): > > Video of Salton Sea test: [When Skeptics Meet Deniers - CFI Investigations Group tests Flat Earth claims](https://youtu.be/CnrjdD08dWg?feature=shared) As I suspected, the flerfers cry “atmospheric lensing”. They’ll also cry “fisheye lens” if there’s any remote photography at any sort of elevation. The best rebuttal is the southern hemisphere. It’s extremely problematic - the rotation of the stars, 24 hours of daylight during the southern summer, observation of the same constellations when facing “south” (which for a flerfer is outward towards the ice wall/dome) from different locations, etc. They have no model to explain these, and they’ll try to change the topic immediately to more nonsense - usually by trying to make a series of arguments to occupy your time/attention. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-flat-earthers-actually-believe-their-stated-beliefs-or-are-they-just-having-a-laugh-at-taking-up-space-in-our-heads/1010380/78 "2024-11-19T21:07:02Z")
Gish Galloping is a time honored tradition. It was BS then and it’s BS now. ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-flat-earthers-actually-believe-their-stated-beliefs-or-are-they-just-having-a-laugh-at-taking-up-space-in-our-heads/1010380/79 "2024-11-19T21:08:41Z")
- **Psalms 74:17** “You laid out the four corners of earth, shaped the seasons of summer and winter”. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2024, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-flat-earthers-actually-believe-their-stated-beliefs-or-are-they-just-having-a-laugh-at-taking-up-space-in-our-heads/1010380/80 "2024-11-19T21:10:12Z")
So two seasons are Biblical and the other two are Heathen, amiright? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-flat-earthers-actually-believe-their-stated-beliefs-or-are-they-just-having-a-laugh-at-taking-up-space-in-our-heads/1010380.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-flat-earthers-actually-believe-their-stated-beliefs-or-are-they-just-having-a-laugh-at-taking-up-space-in-our-heads/1010380.md?page=5)