# Do girls still need special treatment?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-girls-still-need-special-treatment/746095>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 14, 2016, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-girls-still-need-special-treatment/746095 "2016-02-14T05:31:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![HeXen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@HeXen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeXen)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-girls-still-need-special-treatment/746095/81 "2016-02-17T22:34:06Z")

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Why did you single out women for the question? Seems every group needs special treatment do they not? Ethnic groups, religious groups, gays, children, special needs/handicapped, Unions, politicians, military, veterans, poor people, senior citizens…??

All these groups I mentioned and more think they need special treatment in some form or fashion and advocates for all of them are more than happy to announce their special needs at any opportunity.

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**Author:** ![Abner\_Ravenwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c4cdca/32.png) [@Abner\_Ravenwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abner_Ravenwood)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-girls-still-need-special-treatment/746095/82 "2016-02-17T22:36:01Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> If you look at at old newspaper want ads, you’ll see “Jobs For Men” and “Jobs For Women”. :rolleyes: However, there are still situations where employers can request one gender or another - those where the opposite gender does not belong in that place. I saw this a few years ago when a men’s prison in my area placed an ad for RNs to work at their intake clinic - male RNs only.
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> When I told that story on another board, of course there had to be a troublemaker who must have asked me in 10 separate posts, “But why couldn’t they just hire women nurses and have security guards in the room?” I finally got to the point where I offered to get that prison’s contact information and send it to her so she wouldn’t ask me again, but she finally either backed off or found someone else to harass.

It’ still going on in other countries. I was doing an assignment on job searches for my Spanish for business class last year and noticed the gender requirements in many job posts.

For example in El Salvador:

[http://www.sv.computrabajo.com/ofertas-de-trabajo/oferta-de-trabajo-de-gerente-de-ventas-con-exp-en-aperturar-tiendas-sucursales--disponibilidad-inmediata-en-san-salvador-B224021C611E9A33](http://www.sv.computrabajo.com/ofertas-de-trabajo/oferta-de-trabajo-de-gerente-de-ventas-con-exp-en-aperturar-tiendas-sucursales--disponibilidad-inmediata-en-san-salvador-B224021C611E9A33)

[http://www.sv.computrabajo.com/ofertas-de-trabajo/oferta-de-trabajo-de-encargado-de-compras-y-bodega-en-san-salvador-6FE06E83814DDEDA](http://www.sv.computrabajo.com/ofertas-de-trabajo/oferta-de-trabajo-de-encargado-de-compras-y-bodega-en-san-salvador-6FE06E83814DDEDA)

[http://www.sv.computrabajo.com/ofertas-de-trabajo/oferta-de-trabajo-de-encargada-sala-de-ventas--horario-de-centro-comercial-en-san-salvador-DEF59CF43E700772](http://www.sv.computrabajo.com/ofertas-de-trabajo/oferta-de-trabajo-de-encargada-sala-de-ventas--horario-de-centro-comercial-en-san-salvador-DEF59CF43E700772)

Note the age ranges as well.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2016, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-girls-still-need-special-treatment/746095/83 "2016-02-17T23:40:37Z")

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> [@Abner\_Ravenwood](#):
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> Not true. I took both home ec and shop in 7th and 8th grades and just home ec in the 9th grade in the late '80’s and early '90’s, and there were other boys in all the home ec classes. I don’t recall any girls in the shop classes. I’d be willing to bet it’s the same today.

Earlier I posted that my dad took a home ec class - in the late 1950s.

I’d be shocked if boys couldn’t take home ec classes in any public school in the country.

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**Author:** ![PoppaSan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/poppasan/32/189_2.png) [@PoppaSan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PoppaSan)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-girls-still-need-special-treatment/746095/84 "2016-02-19T03:14:49Z")

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My sons’ public high school currently offers a “Language Arts (English) for boys”. Two separate years, grades 9 and 10. I don’t recall a girl only English course. I think there is a girl’s Math one but I’m too lazy to check. They read and discuss more male oriented literature. The teacher explained it as a way for the boys to study free from the distractions of having girls in the room. One of my boys took it.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-girls-still-need-special-treatment/746095/85 "2016-02-19T03:56:50Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> If you look at at old newspaper want ads, you’ll see “Jobs For Men” and “Jobs For Women”. :rolleyes: However, there are still situations where employers can request one gender or another - those where the opposite gender does not belong in that place. I saw this a few years ago when a men’s prison in my area placed an ad for RNs to work at their intake clinic - male RNs only…

Or a PE teacher who’s duties involve lockerroom supervision. This was an actual example used in my 8th grade social studies class (the district was in the process of hiring a new PE teacher).

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-girls-still-need-special-treatment/746095/86 "2016-02-19T19:34:04Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> Sure. Boys have the boy scouts and what do the girls have?
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> The Girl Scouts? Pffft! Not every girl wants to be groomed to be a stay at home care taker. Some girls want to shoot guns and get their hands greasy working on an engine. What choice do they have?

You forgot learning to play bridge, hold a tea party and volunteer at a nursing home … this was back in the early 1970s and still pretty damned ‘pink ghetto’ we did do summer camp once - the tents were the glamping kind that were a canvas roof on a wooden platform, with built in bedframes and roll out mattresses with an actual plumbed in bath house with IIRC 6 toilets in enclosures and 6 shower stalls and 6 sinks per bath house. I think there were a total of 8 or 10 bath houses and like 50 platform tents and a combined arts and craft/chow hall building that also had the nurses office.Might as well have put us up in a damned motel for all the wilderness experience it was. We weren’t even allowed to have fires, just one big bonfire in a sort of depression lined with log benches.

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