# Do I have to restrain myself?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-have-to-restrain-myself/269212>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 14, 2004, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-have-to-restrain-myself/269212 "2004-10-14T16:24:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-have-to-restrain-myself/269212/41 "2004-10-14T18:17:01Z")

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> [@UrbanChic](#):
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> Wow. I can’t _wait_!Seriously, dude. Would it have killed you to use the spoiler tag? I mean, really.

😃

You know, I have no idea how to make those.

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-have-to-restrain-myself/269212/42 "2004-10-14T18:22:41Z")

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> [@Sensualips](#):
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> Reminder to self…never post about religion, politics or anything that might be considered controversial. Even if it is your right.
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> Some people can be extremely kind and alternately cruel as well.

Good golly, do you honestly believe this? You have been ripped a new one in this thread by a number of posters who are openly and unabashedly anti-Bush and you still think it’s about your _politics_? **'Lips** , it has nothing, absolutely nothing to do with your neighbor being pro-Bush and you being anti-Bush. It has everything to do with hypocrisy. Re-read this thread. Think about it. Give some thought to the idea that your neighbor might be a great guy and given alot of thought to who to vote for, and agree to disagree.

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-have-to-restrain-myself/269212/43 "2004-10-14T18:39:04Z")

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> [@Sensualips](#):
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> Reminder to self…never post about religion, politics or anything that might be considered controversial. Even if it is your right.
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> Some people can be extremely kind and alternately cruel as well.

Post anything controversial you want. Just don’t be so fucking stupid about it.

Let me spell this out for you: Your political views do not make you enlightened, and if you believe they do, you’re an asshole. It doesn’t matter what those views are, that still holds true.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-have-to-restrain-myself/269212/44 "2004-10-14T18:45:03Z")

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> [@ultrafilter](#):
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> Let me spell this out for you: Your political views do not make you enlightened, and if you believe they do, you’re an asshole. It doesn’t matter what those views are, that still holds true.

I pretty much agree with you here. Although I wonder if there’s some correlation between gullibility and intelligence. There has to be a way to _prove_ that the people supporting Bush are dumber then those who oppose him.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-have-to-restrain-myself/269212/45 "2004-10-14T18:55:14Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> Is everyone with an opinion other than our own “unenlightened”?

Well, I think militant feminists funny, in a cute sort of way…

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-have-to-restrain-myself/269212/46 "2004-10-14T18:56:39Z")

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> [@World Eater](#):
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> I pretty much agree with you here. Although I wonder if there’s some correlation between gullibility and intelligence. There has to be a way to _prove_ that the people supporting Bush are dumber then those who oppose him.

Why?  
Daniel

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**Author:** ![InvidiousCourgette](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@InvidiousCourgette](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InvidiousCourgette)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-have-to-restrain-myself/269212/47 "2004-10-14T18:58:23Z")

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> [@World Eater](#):
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> I pretty much agree with you here. Although I wonder if there’s some correlation between gullibility and intelligence. There has to be a way to _prove_ that the people supporting Bush are dumber then those who oppose him.

Whoosh! That had so much top spin, it flipped my keyboard over.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-have-to-restrain-myself/269212/48 "2004-10-14T19:04:34Z")

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> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#):
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> Why?  
> Daniel

Because stupid people aren’t really good at reading between the lines.

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**Author:** ![stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/858c86/32.png) [@stately\_plump\_buck\_mulligan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stately_plump_buck_mulligan)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-have-to-restrain-myself/269212/49 "2004-10-14T19:06:13Z")

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Put a Kerry-Edwards sign on your front lawn, bake your neighbor some cookies and stop being a twat.

Disclaimer: I’m a chick.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-have-to-restrain-myself/269212/50 "2004-10-14T19:07:09Z")

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> [@World Eater](#):
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> Because stupid people aren’t really good at reading between the lines.

Ah. I see. Then I’ll get right on  
[sub]that didn’t make any sense at all to me[/sub]  
designing that study, then.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-have-to-restrain-myself/269212/51 "2004-10-14T19:16:10Z")

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Most of the Bush folks seem to be of the “Nuke the fucking towelheads” ilk.

They’re incapable of of even _acknowledging_ the possible benefits of alternate courses of action. If you even suggest that the Iraq invasion created more terrorists then eliminated, they look at you like you’re nuts. They can’t even answer a straight question, and don’t seem to have a grasp on current events.

This sort of stubborn ignorance strikes me as a person who may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-have-to-restrain-myself/269212/52 "2004-10-14T19:23:18Z")

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> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#):
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> Ah. I see. Then I’ll get right on  
> [sub]that didn’t make any sense at all to me[/sub]  
> designing that study, then.
> 
> Daniel

I suppose the toughest part would be defining intelligence. After that, we get a 1000 supporters from each side.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-have-to-restrain-myself/269212/53 "2004-10-14T19:29:22Z")

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> [@World Eater](#):
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> Most of the Bush folks seem to be of the “Nuke the fucking towelheads” ilk.

Or maybe…the Bush supporters _that you have personally interacted with, or seen on TV_, **seem** to be that way. Your blanket condemnation of all of us is a bit…arrogant, to say the least. I happen to think that Iraq was a mistake, and I am very up on current events, and I wouldn’t vote for Kerry if he was the only person running.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-have-to-restrain-myself/269212/54 "2004-10-14T19:31:51Z")

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> [@World Eater](#):
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> Most of the Bush folks seem to be of the “Nuke the fucking towelheads” ilk.
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> …
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> This sort of stubborn ignorance strikes me as a person who may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Guffaw. Guffaw, I say.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-have-to-restrain-myself/269212/55 "2004-10-14T19:31:54Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> I wouldn’t vote for Kerry if he was the only person running.

Me either. 🙂

But since he’s NOT the only person running, I figure I kinda got to vote for him. Just like, if Bush were running against David Duke, Bush would get my vote.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-have-to-restrain-myself/269212/56 "2004-10-14T19:46:42Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> Guffaw. Guffaw, I say.

Alright I’ll revise it to this.

Most of the Bush folks I’ve met seem to be of the “Nuke the fucking towelheads” ilk.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-have-to-restrain-myself/269212/57 "2004-10-14T19:48:46Z")

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Now we are more in agreement, because, sadly, most of the ones I encounter daily are the same. ☹

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-have-to-restrain-myself/269212/58 "2004-10-14T19:49:16Z")

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I feel like inviting **Brutus, Sam Stone** and **Shodan** into this thread so they can see just how liberal the SDMB really is. It’s turned into a real rah-rah cheerleading thread for the anti-Bush OP, hasn’t it? Right? Right?

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-have-to-restrain-myself/269212/59 "2004-10-14T19:54:55Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> I feel like inviting **Brutus, Sam Stone** and **Shodan** into this thread so they can see just how liberal the SDMB really is. It’s turned into a real rah-rah cheerleading thread for the anti-Bush OP, hasn’t it? Right? Right?

I already invited Bricker; I’ve got a feeling that Shodan would find some way to interpret this thread as yet more proof that liberals have got a groupthink going on.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2004, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-have-to-restrain-myself/269212/60 "2004-10-14T19:56:16Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> I feel like inviting **Brutus, Sam Stone** and **Shodan** into this thread so they can see just how liberal the SDMB really is. It’s turned into a real rah-rah cheerleading thread for the anti-Bush OP, hasn’t it? Right? Right?

I can’t speak for any of those luminaries, but I’ll certainly say on my own behalf that I am surprised and very pleased with this thread’s progress. I would not have thunk it! 🙂

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