# "Do I make you a little horny?  Well strip down and get naked!"

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 30, 2006, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687 "2006-09-30T01:54:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/41 "2006-09-30T12:08:43Z")

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[QUOTE=elucidator]  
Ruckus? Oh, its a pretty safe bet there will be _ruckus_. Rectum wrecking ruckus.  
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Could you describe the ruckus, sir?

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/42 "2006-09-30T12:12:57Z")

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Do pages answer to anyone in particular, or do they just work in Congress/the Senate in general? Because I feel pretty bad for these guys if they’d been hoping to put the job on their resumes. “2005-6: Page for Mark Foley.” :dubious: I once knew a guy who had left college for a year to work on the Gary Hart campaign. I wonder if he was ever able to list that.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/43 "2006-09-30T12:45:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Rilchiam]  
Do pages answer to anyone in particular, or do they just work in Congress/the Senate in general? Because I feel pretty bad for these guys if they’d been hoping to put the job on their resumes. “2005-6: Page for Mark Foley.”  
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The page in question worked for Rep. Rodney Alexander, (R)Louisiana, so probably not much for him to worry about.

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/44 "2006-09-30T12:54:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Polycarp]  
I thought that was the **page** ’s line, not yours! 😃  
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No fair! There’s just no way _you’re_ going to Hell, you!

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/45 "2006-09-30T12:58:08Z")

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According to the WaPo story, five GOP Congressmen (not counting Foley himself) knew about Foley for some time, and four of them were in the leadership or in positions of responsibility to varying degrees: Hastert (House Speaker), Boehner (Majority Leader), Rep. John Shimkus (chair of the Page Board), Rep. Tom Reynolds (chair of the NRCC), and Rep. Rodney Alexander, who sponsored the page from his district.

I’m curious as to what their vulnerability to civil suits by parents might look like. But beyond that, this ain’t gonna go over well with the Family Values crowd. They may be OK on torture, but they don’t like men preying on bboys.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/46 "2006-09-30T13:02:28Z")

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> Foley was chairman of the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children’s Caucus and was active in child protection issues, including pushing for legislation to protect children from exploitation by adults over the Internet and further restrictions of child pornography on the Web.

More evidence, if any were needed, that the most likely people to be doing something are the ones preaching most loudly against it.

Or, if you prefer, that the phrase “Republican hypocrisy” has become redundant.

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/47 "2006-09-30T13:07:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Equipoise]  
Hastert wasn’t the only one who [sat on the story](http://www.casperstartribune.net/articles/2006/09/29/ap/headlines/d8keqvk80.txt)…

Liberal media, what? If this had been a Democrat, imagine the ruckus.  
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How to explain, how to explain…Oh! Of course!

“Won’t somebody please think of the _children_!”

They’re minors, right? Kids, who, in all that harsh media glare, could be scarred for life. Handling this discretely protects their privacy, and spares their tender formative years additional perturbation. Of course, there are certain _risks_ associated with keeping a pederast in a position where he has ready access to boys, but we’re taking care of it.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/48 "2006-09-30T13:08:37Z")

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Can’t make shit like this up.

[Statement from the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children](http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/NewsEventServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US&PageId=2820):

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> “Congressman Mark Foley’s resignation is a great loss to Florida and the nation. He has been a hard-working, dedicated and effective Congressman. He will be missed."

They all but say, “Great guy, shame he got caught.”

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/49 "2006-09-30T13:19:12Z")

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[From the ABC story](http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/09/exclusive_the_s.html):

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> One former page tells ABC News that **his class was warned about Foley by people involved in the program.**
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> Other pages told ABC News they were hesitant to report Foley because of his power in Congress.
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> This all came to a head in the last 24 hours. Yesterday, we asked the congressman about some much tamer e-mails from one page, and he said he was just being overly friendly. After we posted that story online, we began to hear from **a number of other pages** who sent these much more explicit, instant messages.

Nice coverup you’ve got there, GOP.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/50 "2006-09-30T13:24:48Z")

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So… **Loopydude** you’re saying … before going into politics, Dennis Hastert worked as an Archbishop? 😃

And hell, yeah, chairman of the committee that oversees child predation… :rolleyes: Perfect

Y’know what? I bet someone will come forward to claim it was the exposure to the “filth” that twisted his mind…

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/51 "2006-09-30T13:27:49Z")

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Honestly, and I feel pretty silly now, when I started this thread, I wasn’t thinking major scandal, busted high-level coverup, egregious dereliction of duty for partisan gain, any of that.

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**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/52 "2006-09-30T13:46:09Z")

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Mark Foley is planning on turning over a new leaf, just as soon as he gets to the bottom of the page.

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/53 "2006-09-30T13:51:35Z")

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Good one! That actually physically hurt!

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**Author:** ![Unregistered\_Bull](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3da27b/32.png) [@Unregistered\_Bull](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unregistered_Bull)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/54 "2006-09-30T15:04:18Z")

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If the Democrats had any brains, they ought to go into attack mode about this. Use “conservative” Democrats if necessary, and try to take the folks who are in leadership duties who sat on this, out of power.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/55 "2006-09-30T15:14:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Unregistered Bull]  
If the Democrats had any brains, they ought to go into attack mode about this. Use “conservative” Democrats if necessary, and try to take the folks who are in leadership duties who sat on this, out of power.  
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Frankly, I’m surprised that the headlines about this are not screaming about the allegation that Dennis Hastert was alerted to this bad behavior nearly a year ago, and promised to deal with it.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/56 "2006-09-30T15:18:54Z")

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Oops. It appears that Hastert didn’t know until this past spring. It was Rep. John Shimkus who oversees the congressional pages as head of the Page Board who first heard about it last November. [http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/news\_theswamp/2006/09/why\_did\_foley\_k.html](http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/news_theswamp/2006/09/why_did_foley_k.html)

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/57 "2006-09-30T15:27:24Z")

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White House responds to Foley scandal:

“No one could have anticipated that a Republican Congressman would sexually exploit minors.”

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/58 "2006-09-30T15:35:06Z")

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[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy]  
White House responds to Foley scandal:

“No one could have anticipated that a Republican Congressman would sexually exploit minors.”  
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Got a cite for that, **ETF**? Not that I doubt they’d say something that stupid, I just want to see it for myself.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/59 "2006-09-30T15:35:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Qadgop the Mercotan]  
Oops. It appears that Hastert didn’t know until this past spring.  
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Isn’t it [funny how a senator’s memories get fuzzy](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/29/AR2006092901574.html) when he starts to consider the implications of what he’s saying?

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> House Majority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) **told The Washington Post last night** that he had learned this spring of inappropriate “contact” between Foley and a 16-year-old page. Boehner said he then told House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.). Boehner **later contacted The Post** and said he could not remember whether he talked to Hastert.

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/60 "2006-09-30T15:45:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Unregistered Bull]  
If the Democrats had any brains, they ought to go into attack mode about this. Use “conservative” Democrats if necessary, and try to take the folks who are in leadership duties who sat on this, out of power.  
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You never know with these things. To perhaps misuse the Catholic analogy, do you ever look back and wonder _why_ such a shockingly large number of clerics knew about it, but until the stories hit the press, nobody really did anything about it? Yeah, it’s politics and money, but maybe it’s also personal. Maybe you’re friends with the abuser. Maybe you don’t know this abuser over _here_, but perhaps you’ve noticed your dear friend Father so-and-so over _there_ has sometimes gotten a little too friendly with the altar boys on occasion. Perhaps you abhor what’s going on, but you open a can of worms, and who knows who the next fellow in the dock might be.

Could the Dems really have been completely in the dark about this up to now? If so, then not much about what I said above is relevant. If not, however, that would have been a mighty fine cudgel to just leave sitting there unused.

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