# "Do I make you a little horny?  Well strip down and get naked!"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 30, 2006, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687 "2006-09-30T01:54:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/61 "2006-09-30T15:57:35Z")

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[QUOTE=Loopydude]  
You never know with these things. To perhaps misuse the Catholic analogy, do you ever look back and wonder _why_ such a shockingly large number of clerics knew about it, but until the stories hit the press, nobody really did anything about it? Yeah, it’s politics and money, but maybe it’s also personal. Maybe you’re friends with the abuser. Maybe you don’t know this abuser over _here_, but perhaps you’ve noticed your dear friend Father so-and-so over _there_ has sometimes gotten a little too friendly with the altar boys on occasion. Perhaps you abhor what’s going on, but you open a can of worms, and who knows who the next fellow in the dock might be.  
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I hadn’t thought about this, but it’s a good point. I would like the Democratic leadership to declare right now that if any Democrat knew about this or another similar scandal and moved to cover it up (or ignored it), they will be expelled from the Democratic party. Yeah, that might have significant repercussions for their control of congress, but fuck that: keep your house clean.

Does Congress have something equivalent to a university’s code of honor? If not, it should: any Congressperson who is aware of impropriety on the part of another Congressperson ought to be honorbound to report the impropriety to the Ethics Committee.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/62 "2006-09-30T16:16:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Left Hand of Dorkness]  
Does Congress have something equivalent to a university’s code of honor?  
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[House Committee on Standards of Official Conduct](http://www.house.gov/ethics/)  
Remember the [Tom DeLay Rule](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/26/AR2005042601295.html)? The ethics committee has been paralyzed for _years_.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/63 "2006-09-30T16:45:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Evil Captor]  
Finally, we reach the ultimate:

Pedophilia: IOKIYAR.  
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That’s Ephebophilia; IOKIYAR

Pedophilia is when you’re sexually attracted to prepubescent kids. This kid was 16.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/64 "2006-09-30T17:09:41Z")

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I’ve started a [GD thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=390350) on this topic.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/65 "2006-09-30T17:19:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Left Hand of Dorkness]  
\<snip\> keep your house clean.

Does Congress have something equivalent to a university’s code of honor? If not, it should: any Congressperson who is aware of impropriety on the part of another Congressperson ought to be honorbound to report the impropriety to the Ethics Committee.

Daniel  
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I appreciate your sentiments, but these are political critters we’re talking about here; if they were good, solid citizens, they would be leading good, solid lives, not mucking about in politics. In my humble opinion, of course.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/66 "2006-09-30T17:27:10Z")

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[QUOTE=featherlou]  
I appreciate your sentiments, but these are political critters we’re talking about here; if they were good, solid citizens, they would be leading good, solid lives, not mucking about in politics. In my humble opinion, of course.  
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A boy can dream.  
Daniel

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/67 "2006-09-30T17:35:07Z")

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[QUOTE=Squink]  
House Majority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) told The Washington Post last night that he had learned this spring of inappropriate “contact” between Foley and a 16-year-old page. Boehner said he then told House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.). Boehner later contacted The Post and said he could not remember whether he talked to Hastert.  
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“…ow, ow, OK, I said it, now leggo my arm already…”

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/68 "2006-09-30T18:09:19Z")

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Has trolling for underaged tail on the internet ever turned out well for ANY public figure? I’m always kind of amazed that any of them ever think they’ll get away with it.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/69 "2006-09-30T18:19:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Captain Amazing]  
That’s Ephebophilia; IOKIYAR

Pedophilia is when you’re sexually attracted to prepubescent kids. This kid was 16.  
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Technically you are correct, but I strongly suspect that in common usage “pedophilia” has become a term that means, “sexual attraction to underage persons” whatever age that person might be.

So, to be technically accurate:

Gay Ephebephobia: IOKIYAR

but frankly, I don’t think most people would know what “ephebephobia” is. If you want to communicate clearly to non-Dopers it should read “Gay Pedophilia: It’s OK If You’re A Republican!”

Make a great bumper sticker.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/70 "2006-09-30T18:21:56Z")

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Just out of curiosity, could Foley be vulnerable to any criminal charges?

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/71 "2006-09-30T18:22:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Fear Itself]  
The page in question worked for Rep. Rodney Alexander, (R)Louisiana, so probably not much for him to worry about.  
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So Foley took a page from of Alexander’s book?

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/72 "2006-09-30T18:24:20Z")

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[QUOTE=Left Hand of Dorkness]  
I hadn’t thought about this, but it’s a good point. I would like the Democratic leadership to declare right now that if any Democrat knew about this or another similar scandal and moved to cover it up (or ignored it), they will be expelled from the Democratic party. Yeah, that might have significant repercussions for their control of congress, but fuck that: keep your house clean.

Daniel  
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This is about the Pubbies, not the Dems, let’s keep the focus where it belongs. If the Dems have a similar scandal, let them deal. Now it is the Pubbies’ time to deal and the Dem’s time to make hay while the sun shines, if, as **Unregistered Bull** points out, they have any brains. I am not sanguine about that prospect based on past performance.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/73 "2006-09-30T18:27:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
Has trolling for underaged tail on the internet ever turned out well for ANY public figure? I’m always kind of amazed that any of them ever think they’ll get away with it.  
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Well, I assume some do get away with it, and hence we never hear about it.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/74 "2006-09-30T18:29:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Qadgop the Mercotan]  
Got a cite for that, **ETF**? Not that I doubt they’d say something that stupid, I just want to see it for myself.  
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_When you whoosh upon a star…_

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/75 "2006-09-30T18:31:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Evil Captor]  
This is about the Pubbies, not the Dems, let’s keep the focus where it belongs. If the Dems have a similar scandal, let them deal. Now it is the Pubbies’ time to deal and the Dem’s time to make hay while the sun shines, if, as **Unregistered Bull** points out, they have any brains. I am not sanguine about that prospect based on past performance.  
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If it’s a Pubbie scandal, what better way to clarify that than by highlighting Democrats’ innocence in the scandal?

Daniel

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/76 "2006-09-30T18:39:33Z")

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Been trying to work up something snarky around “page boy haircut”, but I got nothin’. Since, so far, we have no reason to believe any of this was ever actually perpetrated, which is, no real harm done to any children…this is what we call a “hoot”! _Yeeee-haw_, ride 'em and spank 'em!

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/77 "2006-09-30T18:45:52Z")

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[QUOTE=Left Hand of Dorkness]  
If it’s a Pubbie scandal, what better way to clarify that than by highlighting Democrats’ innocence in the scandal?

Daniel  
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It’ll be all about spin. Someone will say the _Democrats_ are innocent, and this was a _Republican_. They someone will bring up Clinton & Lewinski. Then everyone will say \*“oh yeah! Clinton. We hate him. Fucking Democrats! Let’s vote 'em all out of office!”  
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Then everything will be back to normal.

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/78 "2006-09-30T18:47:03Z")

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[QUOTE=elucidator]  
Been trying to work up something snarky around “page boy haircut”, but I got nothin’. Since, so far, we have no reason to believe any of this was ever actually perpetrated, which is, no real harm done to any children…this is what we call a “hoot”! _Yeeee-haw_, ride 'em and spank 'em!  
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Is this similar to the Stewart jokes on the Dick Cheney shooting? It was hilarious until it was known that the poor guy (whatever his name is) was actually in the ICU. Then it was just “darn funny” or somesuch. Stewart said if he actually died it would have to be downgraded to tragic.

Personally, I don’t find sexual harrassment of grown women in places of employment amusing - even if “nothing happened.” Not even thrilled about consentual relationships in the workplace between superior and subordinate. Wasn’t thrilled with that aspect of Lewinksy. When you start talking about underaged kids, I really don’t care if anything happened ior not. Not funny.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/79 "2006-09-30T19:04:51Z")

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I sometimes peruse the Freeper boards to get a feel for how the conservative base is going to react to something. Initially, it was a liberal conspiracy, turning some innocent emails into something dirty. Then when the _bad_ emails came out, they immediately went to the “Clinton got a blow job” card as well as any number of other stupid _tu quoques_ involving people like Barney Frank and Ted Kennedy. What’s really fascinating is that they seem to think the scandal is that Foley was gay, not that he was attempting to prey on minors. They think that if Foley should have to resign “for being gay,” then so should Barney Frank. I’m really intrigued by their seeming inability to recognize any difference between sex with adults and sex with children. It says something about them but I’m not exactly sure what. Magical thinking comes to mind. They can’t see sexual morality in interpersonal terms but only in magical ones. Homosexuality is wrong because the magic book says so. Fucking little boys is wrong, not because it hurts little boys but because it’s gay, and that angers the gods.

In any case, there is widespread agreement not to allow the Democrats to get away with this and not to let “the socialist” take Foley’s seat. There seems to be no genuine outrage or anger about Foley at all. They’re coloring it more as a “tragedy” and feeling sorry for the guy.

Anthropologically speaking, right wing Christian culture is both fascinating and terrifying to study.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2006, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-make-you-a-little-horny-well-strip-down-and-get-naked/374687/80 "2006-09-30T19:09:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
I sometimes peruse the Freeper boards to get a feel for how the conservative base is going to react to something…  
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I can only hope you were wearing a condom. Two or three, just to be safe.

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