# Do I need to register a gift gun for display? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [April 5, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-need-to-register-a-gift-gun-for-display/982165 "2023-04-05T00:32:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-need-to-register-a-gift-gun-for-display/982165/41 "2023-04-30T15:27:00Z")
That’s a good idea. I’ll hunt around locally as well for a case. There’s a yard sale coming up and I visit estate sales regularly. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-need-to-register-a-gift-gun-for-display/982165/42 "2023-04-30T18:52:58Z")
> [@Common\_Tater](#): > > 'Black Powder" pistols might be suitable for a thread of their very own. Somebody mentioned they aren’t considered a firearm in most states. I don’t recall anyone saying that, although I did say the following: > [@ParallelLines](#): > > Lastly, many early firearm styles aren’t regulated as severely, which is why you can buy most ‘black powder’ (modern replicas) rifles and revolvers without involving FFL. Which should not be taken in _any_ way to mean they aren’t dangerous, and aren’t regulated at all. I agree with your point that a black powder (cap and ball or otherwise) are a fully lethal and dangerous weapon and should be treated as such at all times. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-need-to-register-a-gift-gun-for-display/982165/43 "2023-04-30T19:18:20Z")
As mentioned above, there are very few restrictions in _acquiring_ one. Ownership is a separate issue, and especially use. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-need-to-register-a-gift-gun-for-display/982165/44 "2023-04-30T20:05:47Z")
> [@md-2000](#): > > 60 years of watching westerns and I don’t recall Hollywood ever showing anyone loading a revolver with powder - always just brass cartridges. (about when did cartridgs replace hand-loading?) The Outlaw Josey Wales shows him with cap & ball. > [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#): > > You have to follow modern rules if you ever sell it. I am pretty sure this falls under the ATF “Curio and relic” rules. > **[Curios & Relics | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives](https://www.atf.gov/firearms/curios-relics)** > > A regulation implementing federal firearms laws, 27 CFR § 478.11, defines curio or relic (C&R) firearms as those which are of special interest to collectors by reason of some quality other than is associated with firearms intended for sporting use or... ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2023, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-need-to-register-a-gift-gun-for-display/982165/45 "2023-04-30T20:43:23Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > The Outlaw Josey Wales shows him with cap & ball. It also shows how you could speed-load a Colt 1858 cap and ball revolver: Remove the spent cylinder and swap in another pre-loaded cylinder. ---
**Author:** ![Common\_Tater](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/common_tater/32/13846_2.png) [@Common\_Tater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Common_Tater)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-need-to-register-a-gift-gun-for-display/982165/46 "2023-05-01T01:52:36Z")
Tuco, the scene where he’s at the gun shop in _The good, the bad, and the ugly_ is checking out different cap and ball pistols and mixing and matching parts. He also demands a box of metallic cartridges, which of course won’t fit. I would say it’s a fairly common error in movies, they don’t usually worry themselves too much about authenticity or accuracy or period correctness. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-need-to-register-a-gift-gun-for-display/982165/47 "2023-05-01T02:34:23Z")
You don’t _have_ to follow any additional rules, it just allows you to sell to an additional type of person, FFL03 holders, by receiving a copy of their license without going through 4473 process. You aren’t obligated to sell in a particular way, you can insist on going through a third party FFL if you really want to. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-need-to-register-a-gift-gun-for-display/982165/48 "2023-05-01T02:53:06Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > It also shows how you could speed-load a Colt 1858 cap and ball revolver: Remove the spent cylinder and swap in another pre-loaded cylinder. Yeah, that was cool. But he also carries several revolvers. > [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > You don’t _have_ to follow any additional rules, it just allows you to sell to an additional type of person, FFL03 holders, by receiving a copy of their license without going through 4473 process. Yeah, if you have a C&R licence, which is much easier to get that an FFL, you can get you collection by mail order. Mind you it covers older, collectible guns only. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-i-need-to-register-a-gift-gun-for-display/982165.md?page=2)