# "Do James Lipton have to Julienne a chienne?" , or, That James Lipton was once a Paris pimp

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**Created:** [May 30, 2013, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-james-lipton-have-to-julienne-a-chienne-or-that-james-lipton-was-once-a-paris-pimp/659683 "2013-05-30T04:07:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2013, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-james-lipton-have-to-julienne-a-chienne-or-that-james-lipton-was-once-a-paris-pimp/659683/21 "2013-05-31T08:08:19Z")

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To be fair to Lipton he explained his role as a macquereau is different than the American version of a pimp. He worked for the prostitute, she did not work for him. It was basically marketing. He would find American tourists who wanted some action and bring them to the prostitute.

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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Jocko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncle_jocko/32/2932_2.png) [@Uncle\_Jocko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Jocko)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2013, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-james-lipton-have-to-julienne-a-chienne-or-that-james-lipton-was-once-a-paris-pimp/659683/22 "2013-05-31T11:36:08Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> the greatest French pimp of all time, **Marquis Marc Ande Fonque-Bunch**

I just had to drop in to give props to **Sampiro** for this. I had to read it twice to get it, but it was so worth it. Well played.

“Feel the vibrations! Feel it, feel it!”

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2013, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-james-lipton-have-to-julienne-a-chienne-or-that-james-lipton-was-once-a-paris-pimp/659683/23 "2013-05-31T12:09:55Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> IIRC Dee Dee himself put paid to that notion in interviews. I’m in Austin right now banging my head, but when I get home I’ll have to watch the movie again to see if I am in fact remembering correctly.

He wrote the song 53rd and 3rd which was a well-known location for men to pick up rent boys at the time. It was intimated back in the day that Dee Dee wrote from experience - I would have to go back to the documentary End of the Century (a must-see for any fans of good music docs, and of course the Ramones) because I think it was discussed - I want to say that Dee Dee just said he was writing about stuff he saw more than his own life…

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**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2013, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-james-lipton-have-to-julienne-a-chienne-or-that-james-lipton-was-once-a-paris-pimp/659683/24 "2013-05-31T13:24:11Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Was this in Paris in the '50s by any chance? Because if it was, I hate to tell you but it might not have been exactly dates…

Nah, 1970’s, I think. 🙂 My aunt was an actress. She wasn’t famous, but she ran in those circles in New York City.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2013, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-james-lipton-have-to-julienne-a-chienne-or-that-james-lipton-was-once-a-paris-pimp/659683/25 "2013-05-31T21:24:22Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> He wrote the song 53rd and 3rd which was a well-known location for men to pick up rent boys at the time. It was intimated back in the day that Dee Dee wrote from experience - I would have to go back to the documentary End of the Century (a must-see for any fans of good music docs, and of course the Ramones) because I think it was discussed - I want to say that Dee Dee just said he was writing about stuff he saw more than his own life…

Aye, that’s the movie I was talking about and yes, they did discuss the song. And yeah, my recollection is that he said he was writing about the place not about his own life. In fact, I don’t think he had a heroin problem until many years after he wrote the song.

But, I’ll be home tomorrow evening and I’ll try and give the film a looksee to find the interview about _53rd & 3rd_.

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