I don’t own a gun as I live in NYC and it is illegal. My Father owns two a .30 calibre Carbine revolver and a 9mm Luger my Grandfather took off of a Nazi officer.
I prefer to be able to kill with my bare hands. ;p
Gun ownership is important so that every person can be an armed sovereign republic unto themselves.
I don’t own a gun (1:35 scale artillery models excepted), but my father has several which he has had from before I was born. One .22 rifle, a Walther automatic pistol (war souvenir originally acquired by my grandfather) and a .455 Webley revolver that was my grandfather’s personal military sidearm.
Well, if the lady has a gun and some guy has his pants down around his ankles while sporting a boner and intending to insert said boner into her wee wee without her permission, then she can BLOW HIM OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH. And if she (you) doesn’t have a gun to take care of the situation, THEN one of us folks that do own firearms, if we’re there, can intercede and BLOW THE CREEP AWAY (and put him out of business so he’ll not harm other ladies and girls).
You said all women should carry guns to protect them from rapists. I disagreed. Then you said
and I said:
I’ll ask again. What does a bystander have to do with a woman carrying a gun for protection?
I would hope that a bystander would help me, of course. But my carrying a gun doesn’t ensure my safety and may very well get me killed when all I would have been was raped. See the difference? I do not believe rape is an offense that would justify anyone killing anyone over.
I agree that women can fight back. I do not agree that a gun is the best way to do that. And as I said earlier, rape is not justification for murder, in my opinion.
That’s a judgement call on your part, subject to your own values and mores. Are you willing to deny other women that right to choose whether or not they should be raped because you’re kinda “oogy” about guns?
Just out of curiosity: are you pro-choice or pro-life?
I’ve lived in urban/suburban Southern CA all my life.
To the best of my knowlege, no-one in my family nor my friends’ families owns a gun. The sole exception is my grandfather’s WW2 service gun, which he has framed behind glass, and doesn’t own any ammo for.
I have never touched a gun, and gods willing I never will. I am going to visit some friends who live in rural KY at the end of this month, and I know they have several guns. I don’t feel safe about that, and if I didn’t know that they’d laugh me out of the state I’d ask them to store them somewhere else while I’m there.
It’s sorta like someone said above - there are 3 kinds of people in L.A. who have guns, cops, criminals, and liquor store owners. And not even all of that third category have 'em.
Hey, fuck you. Nobody chooses to be raped, you knuckle-draggin’ moron. A woman increases her chances of serious harm during a rape, should she even have the time to go for her gun. She’d be better off fighting back in other ways than to risk losing her life or killing someone else over a usually non-life threatening attack.
My apologies; my previous post was very poorly phrased. Allow me to amend:
That’s a judgement call on your part, subject to your own values and mores.
Are you willing to deny other women the tools they might find most effective and be most comfortable with, should they ever be confronted with a rape/sexual asault situation?
Even when I have non-partisan links showing that fighting back, even with a gun, reduces the chance of injury or death?
Remember, using a firearm to defend yourself /= a dead Bad Guy.
I’ve lived my whole live in the upper midwest. Here it’s very common for a household to have firearms. But most of those are hunting rifles or shotguns. Probably 95% plus. They aren’t in the house for protection. They are there for deer, pheasant and turkey hunting. All of the ones I have known are stored either in a safe, with a trigger lock, or at minimum, far away from ammunition. They really couldn’t be used for a home break-in.
Well, I would rather see no hand guns, but since they’re legal, a woman can carry a gun if she chooses. I think it will do her more harm than good, but that’s the chance she’s willing to take. The chances of the circumstances being conducive to her getting the gun and actually using it are slim, at best. She’d do better to kick, elbow, gouge, and scream in nearly every case. And I, for one, know that even a small man could wrestle a gun out of my hand with ease.
I do not want to be the direct cause of a rapist’s or robber’s death. I do not believe that most people think it is ethically right to kill someone because they’re taking your stuff or raping you. It’s overkill (pun intended).
