# Do McDonald's in England sell Egg McMuffins?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** food-cooking\
**Created:** [August 18, 2022, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-mcdonalds-in-england-sell-egg-mcmuffins/969892 "2022-08-18T13:38:45Z")\
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> [@SanVito](#):
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> Tesco are just trying to piss us all off.

Does that mean they’re getting you drunk or have got my Englishism mixed around?

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Taking the piss, are ya?

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Now lets fight about what “Canadian” bacon is to the British or for that matter, to Canadians. I wonder what they call it.  
I look at the Reddit Fryup forum and lust after the bacon and sausages .Not so much the beans and black pudding.

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I was wondering the same thing about Canadian bacon in England, but the menu linked above doesn’t have that as an option.

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What do they call [French fries in France](https://www.eatthis.com/french-fries-name/)? What do they call [waffles in Belgium](https://wafflemakercenter.com/history-of-belgian-waffles/)? Is [German Chocolate Cake](https://bakingbites.com/2010/01/what-is-german-chocolate/) from Germany?

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> [@Beesnest](#):
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> Now lets fight about what “Canadian” bacon is to the British or for that matter, to Canadians.

Canadians usually call it back bacon.

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Herein is another example of English people in England using the term “English muffins.” (approx. 2:20)

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/PS-sxmPO2gc/maxresdefault.jpg "The Best Brunch in London") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS-sxmPO2gc)

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> And you won’t believe what Buffalo wings are called in Buffalo!

Are they called “Royales”?

> [@JeffB](#):
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> I was wondering the same thing about Canadian bacon in England, but the menu linked above doesn’t have that as an option.

[Back bacon](https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/267991908?sc_cmp=ppc*GHS+-+Grocery+-+New*MPX_Shopping_All_Other_Smart+Shopping+Top+Offers_Other_Online+Budget*Top+Offers*PRODUCT_GROUP267991908*&ds_rl=1116322&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjqqP9s7q-wIVlK3tCh3v4Q2qEAQYASABEgIgL_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds).

The strips are “[streaky bacon](https://www.google.co.uk/shopping/product/2608924637932817337?lsf=seller:8225840,store:16127201291048199921,lsfqd:0&prds=oid:15360949973384038329&q=fresh+%26+frozen+meat&hl=en&ei=XSiSY4TyOdXE8gKcn5G4AQ&sts=14&lsft=gclid:EAIaIQobChMIjqqP9s7q-wIVlK3tCh3v4Q2qEAQYBCABEgJwxPD_BwE,gclsrc:aw.ds&sfr=compass)”.

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When I was teaching English in Czechoslovakia, I constantly had to explain things like Swiss cheese and American cheese, even to the local English teachers. The names meant nothing to them, other than (they assumed) where the cheeses were made.

I also had to explain that “Columbia, the Gem of the Ocean” was not about a country in South America.

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Yeah, Swiss isn’t going to get you anywhere for cheese, as Switzerland has plenty of cheeses. Emmenthaler or some variation there would be known, though, for the holey cheese.

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That’s precisely what I told them.

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Are they called “Royales”?

With cheese.

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> Herein is another example of English people in England using the term “English muffins.” (approx. 2:20)

that’ll probably be because they are on t’internet and know they need to make the distinction for an international audience. In normal interactions in the UK pretty much no-one feels the need to use the “English” prefix

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> [@JeffB](#):
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> I was wondering the same thing about Canadian bacon in England, but the menu linked above doesn’t have that as an option.

Bacon is designated as back, middle, streaky, chop etc. with smoked, dry cured, sweet cured etc. variations thereof. I don’t know what Canadian Bacon is.

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I believe what Americans call Canadian bacon is what we call back bacon. It seems they think that’s what we always eat, but of course we also have streaky bacon in equal measure. Here’s [Sainsburys](https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/gb/groceries/meat-fish/bacon?utm_campaign=11063470218&utm_medium=cpc&storeId=10151&gclid=Cj0KCQiA1sucBhDgARIsAFoytUvWeA6ZmjHPR41wrcyQvRV6_UAYhpQYlfyW-ktZm6vvL7gonXvkClQaAkjJEALw_wcB&langId=44&utm_source=Google&krypto=37PvCKziKZAg2%2BTF55X2X416%2BoIGToRSecSecubTEqGKJ4%2Bdz7yICHPs2ubjWhj5tbcK3AuHCm1MRADmVz6TxWwFxeF9eM4oUDmpVdRBzc8wkRvg6AcK2y8tXB4k7MmjTvdtwa2tuDH%2BWN2gmAbmSLryVsmqiguwnSBbYDaaUpeGoLWuBz6QlHEvow8OPbYEH7u%2Fd43uax9V%2F7HK%2B5YkGGr8WNuqP1MURx%2FOEYrIwgGyNg%2FJvk0sdTr%2BUkGi2P4pVzp%2FIE%2ByuFCGNVt0qbY3pqoGapp4V8DjHIieVwKd4mA%3D&ddkey=https%3Agb%2Fgroceries%2Fmeat-fish%2Fbacon#langId=44&storeId=10151&catalogId=10241&categoryId=13363&parent_category_rn=13343&top_category=13343&pageSize=60&orderBy=FAVOURITES_ONLY%7CSEQUENCING%7CTOP_SELLERS&searchTerm=&beginIndex=0) to clear it all up for everyone.

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> that’ll probably be because they are on t’internet and know they need to make the distinction for an international audience. In normal interactions in the UK pretty much no-one feels the need to use the “English” prefix

I would agree that most Brits would just say “muffin”, as we’re only familiar with one kind.

But I would disagree that they are likely using the term for the sake of an international audience. I’ve heard “english muffin” a lot, particularly if someone is being descriptive about the components of a dish (i.e. “This is an english muffin, with poached eggs, a hollandaise sauce” vs a simple sentence like "I haven’t had muffins in a while).

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> I’ve heard “english muffin” a lot, particularly if someone is being descriptive about the components of a dish (i.e. “This is an english muffin, with poached eggs, a hollandaise sauce” vs a simple sentence like "I haven’t had muffins in a while).

I’d question who is describing it and to whom.

A UK person to a UK person? there’d really be no need to describe the ingredient of eggs benedict as an “english muffin” as there’d simply be no chance of any confusion.

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Yeah, I agree, I can’t think I’ve ever heard a Brit spell out ‘english muffin’. They’re just muffins, and it’s clear there’s different kinds depending on context. I suspect a lot of Brits (I’m channeling my parents here) aren’t aware that in some places muffins are called ‘english muffins’. I can just imagine the conversation with my Dad (who is 94):

Me: Dad, do you want an english muffin  
Dad: What the bleedin hell is an English muffin?  
Me: It’s just a muffin  
Dad: Well what are you calling it that for?  
Me: Never mind, here’s your muffin

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> that’ll probably be because they are on t’internet and know they need to make the distinction for an international audience.

> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> I’d question who is describing it and to whom.
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> A UK person to a UK person? there’d really be no need to describe the ingredient of eggs benedict as an “english muffin”

I believe you when you say that you’ve never heard an English person say “English muffin”. Fine.

However, it seems a bad extrapolation for you to maintain that this is true of all English, when other English people living in England (like me) are saying they have heard it. Plus all of the various cites so far, from Tesco, to McDonalds, to the video of Brits eating together (and here’s another: [JamieOliver.com](https://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/bread-recipes/english-muffins/)).

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I’m sure you are aware of Jamie Oliver’s global audience. And MacDonald’s, for that matter. Tesco probably think it’s trendy. I note Sainsbury’s, Asda and Waitrose all have resisted.

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