# Do NOT Feed The Troll **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2013, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838 "2013-02-19T22:34:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/281 "2013-02-24T02:43:07Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > I don’t think that sharing what you believe is a mistake because it is being honest and straight forward. > > God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > Holly Do you wish to be able to think that sharing what you believe is a mistake because it is being honest and straight forward? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/282 "2013-02-24T02:43:19Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > I am not blaming others for being offended. Based on what you’ve said, I don’t agree. > [@](#): > > what reason was there to pretty much jump on me about what I believe? None. Another question is has any good come from jumping on me about it? This is what I’m saying: you have lots of questions about the utility of everybody’s response, but none about your own behavior. What reason was there to say this woman is burning in hell? The answer is none, and I don’t care if you think it’s the truth. It was in horrible taste and it was a violation of the rules here. Think about that next time. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/283 "2013-02-24T02:52:32Z")
^^^ How was it in violation of the rules? I didn’t know that it was going to create a stir because I didn’t know where everyone else stood on the issue. If people were hesitant to say anything about any issue for such a reason, there would be no conversation whatsoever. > [@drewtwo99](#): > > Do you wish to be able to think that sharing what you believe is a mistake because it is being honest and straight forward? No I don’t wish that. Why hide what you believe? If what you believe ends up offending someone, that is how that person chooses to feel, not the person who shares. A person who shares has no control over the feelings of other people. God bless you two always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/284 "2013-02-24T02:55:53Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > _"You’ve gotta respect everyone’s beliefs.” No, you don’t. That’s what gets us in trouble. Look, you have to acknowledge everyone’s beliefs, and then you have to reserve the right to go: “That is fucking stupid. Are you kidding me?” I acknowledge that you believe that, that’s great, but I’m not going to respect it. I have an uncle that believes he saw Sasquatch. We do not believe him, nor do we respect him!_ > > Patton Oswalt, on people’s beliefs Yeah! Everyone has every right to believe whatever stupid thing they want to believe, and everyone else has the right to think their stupid beliefs are stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/285 "2013-02-24T03:08:13Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ How was it in violation of the rules? Our main rule is “Don’t be a jerk.” If I heard someone say what you said in a real life conversation similar to that one, I would certainly think the speaker was a complete jerk. The thread - not that I haven’t explained this half a dozen times or more - was about this person’s life and music. Nobody asked for your opinion (or anyone else’s) about suicide and God and the afterlife. In a discussion of religion, that would have been fine. In a thread about a musician, it’s off-topic and frankly it’s selfish. > [@](#): > > I didn’t know that it was going to create a stir because I didn’t know where everyone else stood on the issue. Bullshit. I don’t think you were trying to upset people, but most people would have understood that the comment was probably going to start an argument and that at least one person who read it would probably disagree. And even if everyone had agree with you, the whole thing was still off-topic. > [@](#): > > If what you believe ends up offending someone, that is how that person chooses to feel, not the person who shares. That’s passive-aggressive and childish. And yes, this is blaming other people for being offended by your comments. Adults are expected to know that sometimes their opinions simply don’t belong in a particular conversation. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/286 "2013-02-24T03:14:52Z")
^^^ I am not trying to be jerk when I share my beliefs, but if my beliefs being what they are make people think that I am a jerk, oh well, so be it. They are my beliefs. I will however say that I am sorry for going off subject in the other chat, but I am not sorry about how things have been in this area of the forum since then. I have had every right to stand up to everything that has been thrown at me. And no I am not blaming people for being offended. If they choose to be offended over anything, that is a right that can’t be taken away from them by anyone. God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/287 "2013-02-24T03:18:09Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ I am not trying to be jerk when I share my beliefs Then figure out the appropriate times and places to share them (if you just have to share them). > [@](#): > > And no I am not blaming people for being offended. Yes, you are: > [@](#): > > If they choose to be offended See? You’re convinced everyone else chooses to be offended. They don’t. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/288 "2013-02-24T03:27:26Z")
^^^ Well I can’t pick the way other people feel about anything and no I am not blaming people for feeling offended. What I blame them for is the way that they chose to express their feelings. God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/289 "2013-02-24T03:32:24Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ Well I can’t pick the way other people feel about anything and no I am not blaming people for feeling offended. What I blame them for is the way that they chose to express their feelings. > > God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 > > Holly And we blamed you for the way you expressed your feelings. ---
**Author:** ![R3d\_Anonymous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aeb1de/32.png) [@R3d\_Anonymous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R3d_Anonymous)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/290 "2013-02-24T03:35:07Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ Well I can’t pick the way other people feel about anything and no I am not blaming people for feeling offended. You can stop saying offensive things if you don’t want people getting offended. It’s simple. ETA: Well at least you can try. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/291 "2013-02-24T03:40:38Z")
^^^ No it isn’t simple because I don’t know what people are going to find offensive. If I say that my favorite color is blue for example, how am I to know that saying that my favorite color is blue is going to offend someone if they don’t say anything? I don’t know what a person is going to think when I already do not know the person. That is how you get to know someone anyways. You learn what they like and what they don’t go for. > [@runner pat](#): > > And we blamed you for the way you expressed your feelings. Well then I thank you for letting me know what to do should you do the same thing. 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you two always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 Holly ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/292 "2013-02-24T04:03:23Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > I don’t make things up as I go along with anything Sure you do - people have asked you for cites showing where you get your ideas and you don’t have any. Others have quoted bible passages that contradict things you say and you ignore them. Since your beliefs don’t appear to follow any known religion, what else is there but to assume you are making it up as you go along? Especially when you do things like excuse the sins of someone you like but send another person to hell. > [@](#): > > What you read is your choice and no one else’s and if you don’t want to see anything that I have to say at all, just put me on ignore. No dear, it doesn’t work that way. Just as the assholes who crank up their rap say I don’t have to listen, I simply have no choice. Your idiotic signature makes it impossible to miss your posts. Besides, there is always the off chance someone somehow will beat it into the thing that passes for your brain that _you_ are at fault for dropping into a community and spreading garbage all over it. > [@](#): > > Its not about my favorites. I liked Mindy too. I am just saying that she took one life and then another. And yeah she very well could have asked the Lord to forgive her for killing herself, but what about killing the dog? Did she ask the Lord to forgive her of that? You don’t know, yet you are perfectly happy to assume she is in hell. Sad. > [@](#): > > I don’t mean to hurt or offend anyone when I share what I believe in. Yet when we tell you over and over your are offending people, you keep doing it. > [@](#): > > P.S. If the roles were reversed, I wouldn’t try to get a person banned from a forum that we are both at because their beliefs are different than mine. Nobody is trying to get you banned because your beliefs are weird, it’s because you are rude, obnoxious and refuse to see it. > [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > I am not blaming others for being offended. What I blame them for is how they responded to what I believe. Saying that you disagree and why is one thing, but what reason was there to pretty much jump on me about what I believe? None. One. More. Time. People “jump on” you not because of what you say but because of how you say it. > [@](#): > > Another question is has any good come from jumping on me about it? Yup - some of us are having all kinds of fun! > [@](#): > > Well I can’t pick the way other people feel about anything and no I am not blaming people for feeling offended. What I blame them for is the way that they chose to express their feelings. Just as we hold you responsible for the way you express your beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/293 "2013-02-24T04:03:25Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ Well I can’t pick the way other people feel about anything and no I am not blaming people for feeling offended. What I blame them for is the way that they chose to express their feelings. You’re doing both. Blaming people for how they responded is fair game because they did choose to post in response to you. Blaming them for being offended is not; anyone with a lick of common sense would have understood that someone was going to be annoyed by your comments and being offended is more of an emotional response than a choice. You’re not completely wrong to tell people to ignore you if they don’t like you, but if you’re a mature person you should take more responsibility for your own behavior than this. And I’d like to make sure you understand that you don’t have the right to say whatever you want around here. You have plenty of leeway, but there are rules you and everyone else have to follow. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/294 "2013-02-24T04:08:27Z")
^^^ I don’t blame people for their choice to be offended when they choose to be because that is a right that can’t be taken from them, but I can blame them for the way that they express their feelings. Do you think that a person would get away with vandalizing the property of someone that offended them? No. They would be charged and arrested. God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/295 "2013-02-24T04:10:21Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ I don’t blame people for their choice to be offended when they choose to be because that is a right that can’t be taken from them They’re not choosing to be offended. Attempt to comprehend this. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/296 "2013-02-24T04:11:59Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > ^^^ I don’t blame people for their choice to be offended when they choose to be because that is a right that can’t be taken from them, but I can blame they for the way that they express their feelings. Do you think a person would get away with vandalizing the property of someone that offended them? No. They would be charged and arrested. > > God bless you always!!! > > Holly And you vandalized a memorial thread because you were offended by the way she lived and ended her life. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/297 "2013-02-24T04:13:12Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > And you vandalized a memorial thread because you were offended by the way she lived and ended her life. Right, there’s also that. I expect another round of “I didn’t mean to do exactly what I did.” ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/298 "2013-02-24T04:13:22Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > They’re not choosing to be offended. Attempt to comprehend this. I do comprehend what you are saying and now it is your turn. If something offends a person, so be it, but that does not give them the right to jump all over a person in return in any way. God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/299 "2013-02-24T04:19:32Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > And you vandalized a memorial thread because you were offended by the way she lived and ended her life. I wasn’t offended. All that I did was share a belief that I thought fit in with the news and to me there is nothing wrong with sharing a belief no matter how others feel. Why let another person’s feelings stop you from sharing your beliefs? Y’all are obviously not considering my feelings, so why should I even try to start thinking about anyone else’s??? Y’all have been here at this forum longer then me and look at the example that you have gone out of your way to set!!! God bless you always!!! Holly ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/300 "2013-02-24T04:26:19Z")
> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#): > > I wasn’t offended. All that I did was share a belief that I thought fit in with the news and to me there is nothing wrong with sharing a belief no matter how others feel. Why let another person’s feelings stop you from sharing your beliefs? Y’all are obviously not considering my feelings, so why should I even try to start thinking about anyone else’s??? Y’all have been here at this forum longer then me and look at the example that you have gone out of your way to set!!! > > God bless you always!!! > > Holly Would you have done that at her memorial service? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838.md?page=16)