# Do NOT Feed The  Troll

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 19, 2013, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838 "2013-02-19T22:34:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/361 "2013-02-24T20:58:27Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> Y’all are going to say whatever you want no matter who it upsets so why can’t I?

That’s not true.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/362 "2013-02-24T21:03:00Z")

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^^^ Yes it is. I have found plenty of offending things said on this forum. Why do I not say anything about them? Because I can’t take a person’s right to speak their mind away from them. So if I don’t like what I find, I just have to deal with it as best as I can. I may ignore it, I may respond, whatever I feel is the best thing to do.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/363 "2013-02-24T21:06:02Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> Why do I not say anything about them?

You don’t?

> [@](#):
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> Because I can’t take a person’s right to speak their mind away from them.

Yes, you literally do not have the capability to prevent anyone from expressing himself. But this isn’t about rights, it’s about politeness and consideration. Your comments in the McCready thread were inconsiderate, and you should try not to be that inconsiderate in the future.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/364 "2013-02-24T21:13:44Z")

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^^^ I consider the feelings of other people plenty. The question is, can the rest of you say that about yourselves too?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/365 "2013-02-24T21:16:28Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> Don’t forget that this all goes for you and everyone else here too.  
> Holly

I never said otherwise.

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**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/366 "2013-02-24T21:28:17Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> Rise and shine, people! Did you have a good sleep? I did. 🙂 🙂 🙂
> 
> God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂
> 
> Holly
> 
> P.S. I’m still not giving into you people by the way. Not when I am too proud of where I stand on things. 🙂 🙂 🙂

You don’t act like a Christian; you act like an asshole.

I don’t think you have very much insight into yourself. I don’t think you have very much to do with your time. I pity you. I hope you find a job or something that will let you learn and grow.

Oh, hell. I give up.

Every time you “bless” someone who doesn’t want to be “blessed”, you only make me think less and less of all “Christians”. Your behaviour is only serving yourself, not your God’s, and you are doing your god absolutely no favours by being such a sugar-coated bitch.

I am sorry that all you have in your life is a mediocre country singer and trolling message boards. There should be more than that. I am sorry for you.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/367 "2013-02-24T21:32:52Z")

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^^^ I already have a job and I don’t spend my time trolling message forums when I am not at my job. When I am not helping my chronic ill mom, I spend my time spreading the word about my most favorite singer and if my favorite people do not interest you, why do bother wasting your time giving me grief about them? Do I give you grief about who you like? No.

God bless you and my mom and my other favorite people underneath the Lord always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

Holly

P.S. Why not spend your time focusing on people that you do like instead of those that you can’t stand?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/368 "2013-02-24T21:38:58Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ I consider the feelings of other people plenty.

Not here you haven’t. You must’ve said a dozen times that you’re not responsible for other people “choosing” to be offended by your behavior, you’ve suggested the whole problem in the McCready thread was the fact that you couldn’t predict the responses of other posters (that was not the problem), and you’ve said you’re entitled to your opinion no matter what anyone else things. None of those bespeaks any interest in the feelings of other people. The bottom line is that your behavior in that thread was selfish and inconsiderate. In the Pit it’s another story, but what you’re saying gives me reason to think this is going to happen again, and it shouldn’t.

> [@](#):
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> The question is, can the rest of you say that about yourselves too?

I can.

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**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/369 "2013-02-24T22:06:56Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> ^^^ I already have a job and I don’t spend my time trolling message forums when I am not at my job. When I am not helping my chronic ill mom, I spend my time spreading the word about my most favorite singer and if my favorite people do not interest you, why do bother wasting your time giving me grief about them? Do I give you grief about who you like? No.
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> God bless you and my mom and my other favorite people underneath the Lord always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂
> 
> Holly
> 
> P.S. Why not spend your time focusing on people that you do like instead of those that you can’t stand?

Just proved the asshole part.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/370 "2013-02-24T22:10:40Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Not here you haven’t. You must’ve said a dozen times that you’re not responsible for other people “choosing” to be offended by your behavior, you’ve suggested the whole problem in the McCready thread was the fact that you couldn’t predict the responses of other posters (that was not the problem), and you’ve said you’re entitled to your opinion no matter what anyone else things. None of those bespeaks any interest in the feelings of other people. The bottom line is that your behavior in that thread was selfish and inconsiderate. In the Pit it’s another story, but what you’re saying gives me reason to think this is going to happen again, and it shouldn’t.

The only thing that I will admit is that maybe my delivery can be better, but in the end, why should I keep who I am to myself when I have the right to share what I stand for like everyone else has and **does**?

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. I can’t say that this will never happen again, but if it does, I will try to work on the way that I share what it is that I believe in. 🙂 🙂 🙂

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/371 "2013-02-24T22:16:28Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> why should I keep who I am to myself when I have the right to share what I stand for like everyone else has and **does**?

You’re being asked to follow the same rules everyone else does. In that thread, you didn’t (and that also goes for some other posters).

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/372 "2013-02-24T22:26:06Z")

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^^^ Like I just said, in the future I will try to work on the way that I share what it is that I believe in since that is pretty much how much this all got started in the first place.

God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

Holly

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/373 "2013-02-24T22:54:42Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> As you wish.
> 
> _The greatest of all sins is to cast your evil upon the face of God.  
> To ascribe to him the darkness in your own heart._  
> And yet you judge and condemn people with a smile on your face and a song in your heart, doing monstrous evil in his name, passing it off with the ever sociopathic ‘this is what I believe’, as if this excuses your poison.
> 
> So I condemn you to be judged for your crimes by your own standards. To reap the karmic whirlwind that you sew every day with these words. To face God in your heart and your mind _and in your dreams_, for the ill that you wish and inflict upon others with your words and your beliefs.
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> _May he show you the same degree of mercy that you have desired for others._

Impressive. I think I need that in needlepoint.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/374 "2013-02-24T23:15:53Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> The only thing that I will admit is that maybe my delivery can be better, but in the end, why should I keep who I am to myself when I have the right to share what I stand for like everyone else has and

Nah. Your delivery can never get better. You are who you are.

Just remember that you are much like the fervent religious zealots who think that God commissioned them to save everyone else in the world. They knock on doors and try to convert people. They pass out tracts. They post their screeds on message boards. They’re a plague on humanity, but they’re safe from our DDT. We can’t use that anymore. God, how I miss the old days.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/375 "2013-02-25T00:45:26Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> If what I say upsets someone, it is never on purpose.

I don’t care how oblivious you are; it’s simply not possible for you to have been acting the way you’ve been acting, apparently for years, and not know that it’s offensive in any society, country, religion, frathouse, sorority, or any gathering of more than one person on this planet. In short: Yes, it is on purpose.

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> I don’t go out of my way to offend others with what I stand for and believe no matter what y’all think,

Now this is the Gospel Truth. Of course you don’t go out of your way. It’s your attention. You’re not an Internet Troll; you’re an All-Rounder Troll (ART, because I got tired of typing it). Kudos.

> [@](#):
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> so **if you dislike enough what a person brings to a forum that you choose to come to as well, all that you can do is ignore them because they have the right to give their two cents on whatever is talked about too.**

To be honest, I’m either too lazy to do the counting or too bad at it (maybe both), but how many times have you been told–at least once by board staff–that, no, you do not have such a right here, nobody has such a right. We all post here as a privilege and that is at the discretion of the board staff. Yet another suggestion for you: next time you register for a web board, actually read the user agreement instead of just checking the “agree” box.

> [@](#):
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> I say what I say because it is who I am and if who I am upsets another person, that is just the way that things end up.

Mighty Christian of you. :rolleyes: Oh, and that also reinforces my belief that you are an ART. Did you ever consider that maybe, just perhaps, posters here are trying to get you to not act like an ART? Hey, at least one person has already told you that is specifically what they’re trying to do and has expressed hope that (a) you stop being one and (b) your postings in the very near future and onwards be interesting to read as, apparently, they are in some other threads. Evidently, you are capable of that and that person, at least, wants to enjoy your posts.

> [@](#):
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> Y’all are going to say whatever you want no matter who it upsets so why can’t I?

People are going to say what they want, within the rules here.

By the way, thanks for at least not tossing out a million smilies.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/376 "2013-02-25T00:51:24Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> I consider the feelings of other people plenty.

I believe this is absolutely 100% true. You are happy that you cause offense with your comments. I think your comments are designed to cause offense. It’s part of the martyr complex which you obviously seek to experience.\*

Please see my posting just above about ways to avoid that.

\*I’m now finding myself wondering how much relation that has to Münchausen syndrome or the proxy version of Münchausen syndrome.

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**Author:** ![James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ac8455/32.png) [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Otto_Sweet_Heart)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/377 "2013-02-25T01:07:07Z")

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^^^ Like I said, if I am not the kind of person that you or anyone else here wants to see here, y’all are more than welcome to put me on ignore and if anyone doesn’t want to see you either, they will do the same because an issue like this will never be a one way street.

God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

Holly

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/378 "2013-02-25T01:30:50Z")

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> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> The only thing that I will admit is that maybe my delivery can be better, but in the end, why should I keep who I am to myself when I have the right to share what I stand for like everyone else has and does?

You aren’t keeping “who you are” to yourself. You’re making it very clear “who you are” with every word you post.

Unfortunately, the problem is that “who you are” comes across through your words not as a humbly devout Christian who wants to be good and nurturing to her fellow humans as Jesus directed, but as a vain and self-righteous egotist who only cares about shouting from the housetops at every opportunity about how devout she is. \* “God bless you always! 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you always!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 God bless you always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 **Goddy want a cracker! Awk!!** ”\* :rolleyes:

Standing up for your beliefs is one thing. Shoving your beliefs into other people’s faces at every possible opportunity is something else again. No matter how good or sincere your intentions may be, it is not polite to impose your religious-themed opinions or greetings on groups of people when you know that some of them don’t share your religious beliefs.

Some hypothetical examples:

If your buddy James Otto died in a tragic car accident, heaven forbid, and you opened a Cafe Society thread to lament his passing, it would not be polite for some fundamentalist Hindu poster to write _“Sad to think that James Otto is going to be reincarnated as a cockroach or a sewer rat because he broke the divine dharmic law about not eating meat.”_

Not even if he added _“Hey, I’m just stating the fundamental consequences of universal karma, I don’t mean to hurt anybody’s feelings! May Lord Vishnu protect you with Sudarshan Chakra and prevent your evil acts! 🙂 🙂 :)”_

Similarly, it would not be polite for a Muslim poster to end their responses to you by saying _“May Allah show you the right path and make you among the chosen ones! 🙂 🙂 :)”_  
So in short, **James Otto Sweet Heart** : if you really want to “share what you stand for” by making the people you’re talking to feel blessed, then you need to dial back your aggressive attention-demanding self-congratulatory “blessingitis”. Let the loving Christian self that you want to present be revealed through the kindness and thoughtfulness of your behavior, instead of desperately trying to advertise it with parrot-like repetitions of “Christianspeak” every time you post.

If, on the other hand, you don’t really care about actually being kind and thoughtful but simply want to annoy people who believe differently than you do, then just keep right on doing what you’re doing. Rest assured, we will see exactly “who you are”.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/379 "2013-02-25T01:33:13Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> I have a strong belief that if Hell does exist, then you personally, JOSH, will be shipped there in the express lane. And I believe that you will be beheaded and your head stuck on a pike and displayed prominently as a warning to others. And I believe, _firmly_, that god, if he exists, will, in deciding if he should intervene, spit on your piked head. And then, deciding that is not enough, he will piss on your piked head. And then, deciding that is not enough, he will shit on your piked head. And he will say you got what you deserved.
> 
> But hey, that’s just my personal belief, and I can only hope you do not choose to be offended.

> [@James\_Otto\_Sweet\_Heart](#):
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> Its your belief and you have the right to share it.
> 
> God bless you two always!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂
> 
> Holly

Marry me, Holly.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2013, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-feed-the-troll/650838/380 "2013-02-25T01:39:04Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Marry me, Holly.

Wow, talk about taking one for the team. 🙂 Unfortunately, it’s probably not legal in your jurisdiction to keep your wife locked in the basement with no internet access. (Although, come to think of it, I guess there are quite a few fundamentalist Christian communities that would consider it a legitimate husbandly prerogative under some circumstances.)

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