# Do not piss off Jon Stewart

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 6, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543 "2009-03-06T16:36:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/21 "2009-03-06T22:21:08Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> [I think the word has gone out](http://www.star-telegram.com/business/story/1242265.html)… piss TDS at your own risk. Nice to have that kind of power, and use it for good and not evil.

I would have thought that was obvious after [Jon brought down Crossfire on CNN](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossfire_(TV_series)#Jon_Stewart.27s_appearance), ending Tucker Carlson’s job.

Of course, that was like so four years ago, so the mavens of the 24 hour news cycle can be forgiven for having forgotten about it…

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/22 "2009-03-06T23:05:41Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> I would have thought that was obvious after [Jon brought down Crossfire on CNN](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossfire_(TV_series)#Jon_Stewart.27s_appearance), ending Tucker Carlson’s job.
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> Of course, that was like so four years ago, so the mavens of the 24 hour news cycle can be forgiven for having forgotten about it…

And remember during the 2004 Republican convention when they sent on this asshole Congressman from Texas with the “Kerry is the most liberal Senator” crap? Stewart, clearly prepared, but him a new one. After that various high ranking Republican party officials came on to grovel. I think they had discovered that he wasn’t just a clueless standup comic reading from a teleprompter.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/23 "2009-03-06T23:09:01Z")

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> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#):
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> If this is true, then Cramer should start off each show with a statement like “What you are about to see and hear from me on this show is gimmickry and I in no way advise you to base your investment choices solely on the information you get here.”

At the end of his show is a disclaimer that says more or less this, in corporatese. [Here’s the version on the Mad Money site.](http://www.cnbc.com/id/17362458/)

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> You should not treat any opinion expressed by Cramer as a specific inducement to make a particular investment or follow a particular strategy, but only as an expression of his opinion. Cramer’s opinions are based upon information he considers reliable, but neither CNBC nor its affiliates and/or subsidiaries warrant its completeness or accuracy, and it should not be relied upon as such. Cramer, CNBC, its affiliates and/or subsidiaries are not under any obligation to update or correct any information provided on this website. Cramer’s statements and opinions are subject to change without notice. No part of Cramer’s compensation from CNBC is related to the specific opinions he expresses.
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> Past performance is not indicative of future results. Neither Cramer nor CNBC guarantees any specific outcome or profit. You should be aware of the real risk of loss in following any strategy or investment discussed on this website or on the show. Strategies or investments discussed may fluctuate in price or value. Investors may get back less than invested. Investments or strategies mentioned on this website or on the show may not be suitable for you. This material does not take into account your particular investment objectives, financial situation or needs and is not intended as recommendations appropriate for you. You must make an independent decision regarding investments or strategies mentioned on this website or on the show. Before acting on information on this website or on the show, you should consider whether it is suitable for your particular circumstances and strongly consider seeking advice from your own financial or investment adviser.

I’ll be watching the episode in a few minutes, so if you’re responding to anything specific he said, I’ll see it shortly. Cramer’s no journalist, though, so if he’s asserting he is one, that’s ridiculous.

[Not to derail this into a debate about Cramer, but I hope everybody’s seen this before.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfWSRuNm6do)

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**Author:** ![tds1273](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/df705f/32.png) [@tds1273](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tds1273)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/24 "2009-03-06T23:16:27Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> …piss TDS at your own risk. Nice to have that kind of power, and use it for good and not evil.

I’m not really tha… Oh my god, look at that dog! Come here fluffy…

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**Author:** ![flodnak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/838e76/32.png) [@flodnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flodnak)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/25 "2009-03-07T13:04:03Z")

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An updated version of the ancient proverb: _Never piss off anyone who buys ink by the gallon._

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**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/26 "2009-03-07T13:32:46Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> I would have thought that was obvious after [Jon brought down Crossfire on CNN](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossfire_(TV_series)#Jon_Stewart.27s_appearance), ending Tucker Carlson’s job.

I didn’t realize there was a connection between those events. How do we know that there was?

-FrL-

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2009, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/27 "2009-03-07T14:21:44Z")

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> [@Frylock](#):
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> I didn’t realize there was a connection between those events. How do we know that there was?
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> -FrL-

[cite](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucker_Carlson#2004_confrontation_with_Comedy_Central.27s_Jon_Stewart)

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> In January 2005, CNN announced they were ending their relationship with Carlson and would soon cancel Crossfire as a direct result of the Stewart interview.

To be fair, the wikipedia article goes on:

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> Carlson, however, claims he had already resigned from CNN and Crossfire long before Stewart was booked as a guest, telling host Patricia Duff: “I resigned from Crossfire in April, many months before Jon Stewart came on our show, because I didn’t like the partisanship, and I thought in some ways it was kind of a pointless conversation… each side coming out, you know, [raises fists] ‘Here’s my argument,’ and no one listening to anyone else. [CNN] was a frustrating place to work.”

To be even more fair, tho, it sounds like this is just an attempt to save face (by a guy who apparently looks at Les Nessman as the model of what a news reporter should be).

[cite](http://politicalhumor.about.com/b/2005/01/07/jon-stewarts-wish-fulfilled-crossfire-to-stop-hurting-america.htm)

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> Three months after “Daily Show” host Jon Stewart accused “Crossfire” hosts Tucker Carlson and Paul Begala of “partisan hackery” and implored them to “stop hurting America,” CNN announced that it will cancel the long-running screamcast. **“I guess I come down more firmly in the Jon Stewart camp,” said CNN Chief Executive Jonathan Klein**. Reacting to the news, Stewart said, “I had no idea that if you wanted a show canceled, all you had to do was say it out loud.”

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/28 "2009-03-08T15:32:52Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Stewart is a friendly host most of the time, but his best work is usually when he’s pissed off.

I still chuckle over Congresses Jewish holiday break.

“You know if we have to do this thing without Lieberman and Feingold _so be it_…and for fuck sake, when you get back I really hope you get to work 'cause soon it’ll Boxing Day and Kwanzaa and we’ll never get anything done!”

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/29 "2009-03-08T15:42:49Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> And remember during the 2004 Republican convention when they sent on this asshole Congressman from Texas with the “Kerry is the most liberal Senator” crap? Stewart, clearly prepared, but him a new one. After that various high ranking Republican party officials came on to grovel. I think they had discovered that he wasn’t just a clueless standup comic reading from a teleprompter.

Oh! What day was that, I’d like to watch it.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/30 "2009-03-08T23:39:16Z")

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Eh, Colbert still wins for the Press Roast of GWB. Oh, god, the Helen Thomas bit alone.

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**Author:** ![UTejas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UTejas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UTejas)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2009, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/31 "2009-03-08T23:48:20Z")

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> [@Sitnam](#):
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> Oh! What day was that, I’d like to watch it.

> **[Comedy Central The Daily Show Fan Page](https://www.cc.com/fan-hub/the-daily-show)**
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> The source for The Daily Show fans, with episodes hosted by Jon Stewart, Ronny Chieng, Jordan Klepper, Dulcé Sloan and more, plus interviews, highlights and The Weekly Show podcast.

Enjoy

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/32 "2009-03-09T08:15:22Z")

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What’s strange is that this episode is not listed as for sale on itunes. It appeared briefly as being for sale but when I clicked on it to purchase, I was told it is no longer available. Does anyone know why this one episode is unavailable?

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/33 "2009-03-10T19:57:27Z")

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[Cramer Vs. Stewart: The Rematch](http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/03/10/cramer_stewart/index.html)😃

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/34 "2009-03-11T02:24:32Z")

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> [@flodnak](#):
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> An updated version of the ancient proverb: _Never piss off anyone who buys ink by the gallon._

Or to put it another way, _don’t get into a war of words with a comedian_. In this case a comedian with a crack staff of archivists.

I haven’t meant to defend Cramer here, it’s just that I take him for what he is: a traveling medicine show doctor of the stock market. I don’t think he’s stupid, and I think he does his homework, but if you believe the market is a casino where you’ll make it big if you’re lucky, without skills being involved, you’re probably going to be sorry. I feel bad for people who take bad advice and pay for it, and journalistically I don’t like it, but it’s also true they should know better.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/35 "2009-03-11T02:43:47Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Or to put it another way, _don’t get into a war of words with a comedian_. In this case a comedian with a crack staff of archivists.

Same thing happened in general during the Writer’s Strike. The writers made the studios look like a bunch of fools.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/36 "2009-03-11T04:07:38Z")

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If I can carry on my conspiracy theory that no one but me cares about, I mentioned that itunes wasn’t carrying this episode on the Daily Show website and it was removed. We are through the looking glass people.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/37 "2009-03-11T04:09:24Z")

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Today CNBC went on the offensive to defend its brand. It’s not helping.

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**Author:** ![Alienhand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8edcca/32.png) [@Alienhand](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alienhand)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/38 "2009-03-11T04:31:21Z")

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Stewart did another segment tonight and threw in Joe Scarborough for his comments this morning. This time Stewart was a little nicer, he used Dora the Explorer. 🙂

According to the TDS website Cramer will be on the Thursday night show.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/39 "2009-03-11T04:55:05Z")

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> [@Alienhand](#):
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> According to the TDS website Cramer will be on the Thursday night show.

_That’s_ going to be uncomfortable.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/40 "2009-03-11T05:26:05Z")

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> [@Alienhand](#):
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> Stewart did another segment tonight and threw in Joe Scarborough for his comments this morning. This time Stewart was a little nicer, he used Dora the Explorer. 🙂

[Here’s a link to that.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/10/jon-stewart-slams-jim-cra_n_173738.html) This whole dustup is so entertaining!

> [@Alienhand](#):
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> According to the TDS website Cramer will be on the Thursday night show.

Gotta give it to Cramer, that takes balls.

Does anybody have a link to Cramer on Colbert that was referenced upthread?

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