# Do not piss off Jon Stewart

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 6, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543 "2009-03-06T16:36:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/41 "2009-03-11T05:28:50Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> And remember during the 2004 Republican convention when they sent on this asshole Congressman from Texas with the “Kerry is the most liberal Senator” crap? Stewart, clearly prepared, but him a new one. After that various high ranking Republican party officials came on to grovel. I think they had discovered that he wasn’t just a clueless standup comic reading from a teleprompter.

I laughed when McCain claimed that Obama was the most liberal Senator.  
Response A: “Really. Interesting how Kerry held that spot four years ago. And Clinton was the most liberal governor twelve years before that. No doubt that if it had made any sense, you would have claimed that Al Gore was the most liberal Vice President. Then again, lately you guys don’t seemed too concerned with making sense…”  
Response B: “Seriously? The junior Senator from Illinois is the most liberal? More so than everyone from New England, including John Kerry, who was previously the most liberal, and Bernie Sanders, for fuck’s sake, who _self-identifies as a socialist_? Really?”  
Response C: “Most liberal? According to whom? By what measure?”

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/42 "2009-03-11T05:29:27Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> Does anybody have a link to Cramer on Colbert that was referenced upthread?

[Over here.](http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/220779/march-05-2009/market-psychology---jim-cramer) It’s one of the weirdest things I’ve ever seen on Colbert. Sort of what you’d expect if Aldous Huxley wrote a sketch for the Report, I think.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/43 "2009-03-11T06:01:08Z")

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Remember when people were concerned that the Daily Show wouldn’t have anything to talk about once Bush was out of office?

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/44 "2009-03-11T06:18:38Z")

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> [@Alienhand](#):
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> Stewart did another segment tonight and threw in Joe Scarborough for his comments this morning. This time Stewart was a little nicer, he used Dora the Explorer. 🙂

That was quite entertaining! I can’t wait to see Cramer on his show. If this is planned, it’s certainly working.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/45 "2009-03-11T11:24:40Z")

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Thanks **Marley23**.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/46 "2009-03-11T14:24:37Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> Remember when people were concerned that the Daily Show wouldn’t have anything to talk about once Bush was out of office?

They certainly don’t seem to be lacking. Stewart’s already proven unafraid to go after Obama when he blunders, too.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/47 "2009-03-11T15:00:18Z")

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Apparently, Jim Cramer was on NBC’s The Today Show responding to Jon Stewart’s criticism, so Stewart responded on The Daily Show last night. You can watch the segment [here](http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=220510&title=basic-cable-personality-clash).

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/48 "2009-03-11T15:22:46Z")

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[Business](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/business/) Cramer admitted market manipulation when he ran a hedge fund. He will regret attacking Stewart.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/49 "2009-03-11T17:50:01Z")

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You’d think they’d learn after the Crossfire incident that you can’t take on Stewart. Remember when they criticized him for not reporting real news, and he responded that his lead-in show was puppets making crank calls? Cramer has an audience because he is supposed to be credible, Stewart has one because he is funny. You can kill someone’s credibility faster then their funniness.

Maybe they should give Cramer a comedy investment show on Comedy Central. Then he’d be set.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/50 "2009-03-11T18:03:27Z")

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Edit to add, [here’s a direct link](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/11/jim-cramer-shorting-stock_n_173824.html) to the story.

> [@gonzomax](#):
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> [Business](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/business/) Cramer admitted market manipulation when he ran a hedge fund. He will regret attacking Stewart.

Bad luck for that to come out the day before he’s scheduled to go on The Daily Show. Jon will be ready for him, but if he cancels, oooooh, that won’t be good for him either. He’s in a bind. This is awesome!

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**Author:** ![Snag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Snag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snag)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/51 "2009-03-11T18:10:12Z")

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> [@ArchiveGuy](#):
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> [Cramer Vs. Stewart: The Rematch](http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/03/10/cramer_stewart/index.html)😃

That was the funniest thing I’ve seen in I don’t know how long.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/52 "2009-03-11T18:13:33Z")

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I actually linked to Cramer’s market manipulation statements upthread. It’s old news: the YouTube video was posted in October and I think I heard about it long before that. Tonight should be interesting, but let’s not overlook the fact that Stewart tends to be friendly when you expect him to be confrontational (and sometimes gets confrontational when you think he’ll be friendly, as Chris Matthews found out).

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/53 "2009-03-11T18:13:49Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Maybe they should give Cramer a comedy investment show on Comedy Central. Then he’d be set.

It’s already looking like he’s had a comedy investment show on CNBC for several years.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/54 "2009-03-11T18:16:56Z")

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> [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](#):
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> It’s already looking like he’s had a comedy investment show on CNBC for several years.

Until it jumped the shark and turned into a tragedy last year.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/55 "2009-03-11T18:17:39Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Tonight should be interesting, but let’s not overlook the fact that Stewart tends to be friendly when you expect him to be confrontational (and sometimes gets confrontational when you think he’ll be friendly, as Chris Matthews found out).

I was thinking about that. I have a feeling that we’re not going to get even one “F\*\*\* you!” out of Stewart. ☹ The best we’ll be able to hope for is Stewart refusing to let Cramer get away with any more bullshit, but overall I expect it to be an unsatisfyingly pleasant interview.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/56 "2009-03-11T18:21:47Z")

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To be fair, his initial FU was directed at Stanford, who was gloating about being a billionaire shortly before he was accused of an enormous fraud. I lost track, but I think the second time was a self-parody and maybe the third was directed at Cramer, but it was still sort of a parody of Stewart’s own criticisms. I don’t think he’s ever cursed out a guest and I doubt he’ll start tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/57 "2009-03-11T18:34:20Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Or to put it another way, _don’t get into a war of words with a comedian_. In this case a comedian with a crack staff of archivists.

I actually spoke these exact words out loud to my television last night. If you do a interview segment with MSNBC and they stick up for you and talk about his “funny faces,” he’ll do an interview with Dora the Explorer and Boots the Monkey where she calls you a _pendejo_ and he offers to throw poo on you. The only way to win is to drop it.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/58 "2009-03-11T18:35:37Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> To be fair, his initial FU was directed at Stanford, who was gloating about being a billionaire shortly before he was accused of an enormous fraud. I lost track, but I think the second time was a self-parody and maybe the third was directed at Cramer, but it was still sort of a parody of Stewart’s own criticisms. I don’t think he’s ever cursed out a guest and I doubt he’ll start tomorrow.

He’s never cursed out a guest to my knowledge either - but let’s not forget he called Tucker Carlson a dick live on Crossfire, which was a similar form of confrontation with what is going on with Cramer…

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**Author:** ![Trom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@Trom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trom)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/59 "2009-03-11T18:58:46Z")

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I actually lost a decent amount of respect for John Stewart in his handling of Santelli. Santelli is about as far from a “defend-the-big-banks-screw-the-poor-masses” guy as one can get. He has been as vocal in his opposition to the bailouts for banks as he was for irresponsible homeowners. I can try to find the clip later, but I distinctly remember him getting so upset he walked off frame while discussing one of the banking bailouts. Santelli was arguing that they should slow down and come up with a rational plan, as opposed to throwing something together NOW NOW NOW! John Stewart was either ignorant of the views of the man he was smearing, or being deliberately misleading and inflammatory. As John Stewart is clearly an intelligent and thorough man, I tend to think it was choice number two. Disappointing.

But, as far as the rest of Stewart’s smear of CNBC, spot on. Cramer is a joke that, sadly, many people look to for investment advice. They should display side by side comparisons of his recommendations vs. the S&P 500 before every show. Maybe people would realize what a clown he is. But, I doubt it. B-b-b-b-booya!

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/60 "2009-03-11T20:03:55Z")

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> [@Trom](#):
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> Santelli is about as far from a “defend-the-big-banks-screw-the-poor-masses” guy as one can get. He has been as vocal in his opposition to the bailouts for banks as he was for irresponsible homeowners. I can try to find the clip later, but I distinctly remember him getting so upset he walked off frame while discussing one of the banking bailouts. Santelli was arguing that they should slow down and come up with a rational plan, as opposed to throwing something together NOW NOW NOW!

Are you saying the clip was misused? Santelli appeared to encourage the traders to boo bailouts for “losers” who couldn’t pay their mortgages. Is there some other way to interpret that?

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