# Do not piss off Jon Stewart **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 6, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543 "2009-03-06T16:36:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/61 "2009-03-11T20:12:57Z")
Update: without going into details, I am friends with one of the on-air reporters / pundits at CNBC. As it stands now, Cramer is still planning to go on. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/62 "2009-03-11T20:21:11Z")
Dude’s got to salvage his credibility. If he can make it through the interview without getting totally embarrassed by Stewart, he should come out of it okay. ---
**Author:** ![Trom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@Trom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trom)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/63 "2009-03-11T20:36:44Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Are you saying the clip was misused? Santelli appeared to encourage the traders to boo bailouts for “losers” who couldn’t pay their mortgages. Is there some other way to interpret that? Nope. You pretty got it I’d say. I was merely pointing out that Santelli has been calling the banking institutions “losers” for quite some time, too. ---
**Author:** ![Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cornelius_Tuggerson)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/64 "2009-03-11T21:07:33Z")
> [@Fiddle\_Peghead](#): > > If this is true, then Cramer should start off each show with a statement like “What you are about to see and hear from me on this show is gimmickry and I in no way advise you to base your investment choices solely on the information you get here.” Ummm I don’t mean to make you look stupid or anything but: [QUOTE=By CNBC,For dumb dumbs;] The content of this website is published in the United States of America and persons who access it agree to do so in accordance with applicable U.S. law. All opinions expressed by Jim Cramer on this website and on the show are solely Cramer’s opinions and do not reflect the opinions of CNBC, NBC UNIVERSAL or their parent company or affiliates, and may have been previously disseminated by Cramer on television, radio, internet or another medium. You should not treat any opinion expressed by Cramer as a specific inducement to make a particular investment or follow a particular strategy, but only as an expression of his opinion. Cramer’s opinions are based upon information he considers reliable, but neither CNBC nor its affiliates and/or subsidiaries warrant its completeness or accuracy, and it should not be relied upon as such. Cramer, CNBC, its affiliates and/or subsidiaries are not under any obligation to update or correct any information provided on this website. Cramer’s statements and opinions are subject to change without notice. No part of Cramer’s compensation from CNBC is related to the specific opinions he expresses. Past performance is not indicative of future results. Neither Cramer nor CNBC guarantees any specific outcome or profit. You should be aware of the real risk of loss in following any strategy or investment discussed on this website or on the show. Strategies or investments discussed may fluctuate in price or value. Investors may get back less than invested. Investments or strategies mentioned on this website or on the show may not be suitable for you. This material does not take into account your particular investment objectives, financial situation or needs and is not intended as recommendations appropriate for you. You must make an independent decision regarding investments or strategies mentioned on this website or on the show. Before acting on information on this website or on the show, you should consider whether it is suitable for your particular circumstances and strongly consider seeking advice from your own financial or investment adviser. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/65 "2009-03-11T21:19:21Z")
^ But that’s not aired before every episode as Fiddle would like to see, right? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/66 "2009-03-11T21:20:48Z")
> [@Red\_Barchetta](#): > > ^ But that’s not aired before every episode as Fiddle would like to see, right? No, just after. I say this because I’m kicking myself for not mentioning it in post 23. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cornelius_Tuggerson)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/67 "2009-03-11T21:28:25Z")
I also never heard Jon mention anything about Rick’s stance on the TARP bailout. He just implied that Rick was for it, without ever providing a cite. Sounds like crappy partisan journalism to me, at least Colbert gave Cramer a chance to stand up and rebuke the bullshit he was spewing. Unfortunately Cramer can’t really bring up his shows disclaimer as it might affect ratings, so he had to grab a spoon and dig in. Whatever, Jon and Steven got some undeserved laughs, but Cramer is crying all the way to the bank, he still has a successful and entertaining show. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/68 "2009-03-11T21:36:37Z")
> [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](#): > > Sounds like crappy partisan journalism to me, at least Colbert gave Cramer a chance to stand up and rebuke the bullshit he was spewing. Repeat after me: Jon Stewart is NOT a journalist, he’s a comedian that gets paid to make fun of current events. Jon Stewart is NOT a journalist, he’s a comedian that gets paid to make fun of current events. Jon Stewart is NOT a journalist, he’s a comedian that gets paid to make fun of current events. That said, he’s probably a better “journalist” than about 70-80% of television media that portray themselves as such. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/69 "2009-03-11T21:42:19Z")
> [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](#): > > I also never heard Jon mention anything about Rick’s stance on the TARP bailout. He just implied that Rick was for it, without ever providing a cite. That’s probably true. It’s also not really the point of the segment. > [@](#): > > Sounds like crappy partisan journalism to me What’s partisan about it? > [@](#): > > at least Colbert gave Cramer a chance to stand up and rebuke the bullshit he was spewing. You know, I’m not sure that’s what was achieved in Colbert’s Cramer interview, and in any case he’ll be on TDS tomorrow. Cramer doesn’t have to rebuke anybody else’s bullshit: he needs to explain his own. His response to Stewart appeared to be “he’s just a comedian and has the luxury of nitpicking me.” That’s a dodge, and fails to explain some significant cases where Cramer and his network were absolutely wrong on issues of huge import, and yet continue to present themselves as authoratitive voices and providers of sound advice to investors. That’s what Stewart was taking issue with. > [@](#): > > Unfortunately Cramer can’t really bring up his shows disclaimer as it might affect ratings, so he had to grab a spoon and dig in. No, of course not. If he admitted he’s basically a carnival barker for the stock market, people might stop taking his advice. So he _has_ to lie about it. Poor Cramer, poor CNBC. ---
**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/70 "2009-03-11T21:45:42Z")
> [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](#): > > IUnfortunately Cramer can’t really bring up his shows disclaimer as it might affect ratings, so he had to grab a spoon and dig in. The fact that consumer/investor protection would hurt ratings isn’t even close to a justifiable reason to forgo the disclaimer, IMHO. “If I had to explain before each show that I’m just a b.s. artist, people wouldn’t watch!” isn’t a good enough reason. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/71 "2009-03-11T23:35:36Z")
Oh my my my my my my. I just heard that JoeBlow said this on his morning show: > [@](#): > > “At least I’m not a blind ideologue” In response to Stewart’s “I like my morning news like I like my coffee, white and bitter” Do these guys ever learn? Stewart might just let it go, but if he decides to go after Joe Scarborough, the results could be spectacular, and Stewart WILL win. A nice segment about [Joe’s dead intern](http://www.americanpolitics.com/20010808Klausutis.html) might be in order. > [@](#): > > “FORT WALTON BEACH, FL. - Lori Klausutis, a 28-year-old office worker for Rep. Joe Scarborough (R-Fl), was found dead in the congressman’s district office. Police said preliminary findings from the medical examiner’s office showed no foul play or any outward indication of suicide.” ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/72 "2009-03-12T00:15:02Z")
Blind ideologue? Is CNBC a political party or something? I mean, isn’t that just openly admitting they’re conservative, if Joe thinks Stewart’s a liberal hack? Besides, all I’ve seen since TDS came back from vacation that hasn’t been dumping on CNBC is them dumping on Obama. Stewart really hasn’t spared the Democrats since they took office, other than a few weeks between the election and inauguration celebrating Bush’s departure. Once Obama started to get settled into the White House and provided TDS with material, they jumped on it. ---
**Author:** ![Piker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@Piker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Piker)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/73 "2009-03-12T00:20:05Z")
> [@Cornelius\_Tuggerson](#): > > I also never heard Jon mention anything about Rick’s stance on the TARP bailout. That’s where I have to disagree with you. The assault on Santelli was about his calling everyday Americans, who relied on banks, financial analysts, and other experts in taking out mortgages that, as a result of declining housing prices, have plunged them into massive debt, “losers”. That many of these CNBC pundits support the bank bailout is a cherry on top of the hypocrisy sundae. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/74 "2009-03-12T00:56:01Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Blind ideologue? Is CNBC a political party or something? I mean, isn’t that just openly admitting they’re conservative, if Joe thinks Stewart’s a liberal hack? Of course he’s a hack, he criticized _Scarborough_. The idea of a former Republican Congressman being less ideological than a TV comedian is amusing, though. Joe Scarborough isn’t a hack? Since when? ---
**Author:** ![Trom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@Trom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trom)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/75 "2009-03-12T01:00:32Z")
> [@Piker](#): > > That’s where I have to disagree with you. The assault on Santelli was about his calling everyday Americans, who relied on banks, financial analysts, and other experts in taking out mortgages that, as a result of declining housing prices, have plunged them into massive debt, “losers”. > > That many of these CNBC pundits support the bank bailout is a cherry on top of the hypocrisy sundae. But, he thinks the banks are “losers,” too. He’s hardly being hypocritical. I’ve watched CNBC every single day for the past 2.5 years. There are oodles of hypocritical idiots on the channel, but Santelli hasn’t exposed himself as such, IMO. I remember seeing Santelli’s rant live. The uproar it has caused has, honestly, been quite surprising. I didn’t expect it to be such a polarizing issue. I still have a hard time seeing it as a right wing attack. What’s so disagreeable about advocating not overextending oneself financially? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/76 "2009-03-12T01:01:59Z")
Turns out people don’t like being called losers. I know, I know, go figure. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/77 "2009-03-12T01:05:15Z")
> [@Trom](#): > > But, he thinks the banks are “losers,” too. He’s hardly being hypocritical. I’ve watched CNBC every single day for the past 2.5 years. There are oodles of hypocritical idiots on the channel, but Santelli hasn’t exposed himself as such, IMO. I remember seeing Santelli’s rant live. The uproar it has caused has, honestly, been quite surprising. I didn’t expect it to be such a polarizing issue. I still have a hard time seeing it as a right wing attack. What’s so disagreeable about advocating not overextending oneself financially? 😕 It wasn’t a right wing attack. Neither Stewart, nor anyone else that I know of, has characterized it as such. It was Santelli being an asshole, and that’s how it has been characterized. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/78 "2009-03-12T01:32:56Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > It wasn’t a right wing attack. Neither Stewart, nor anyone else that I know of, has characterized it as such. Aside from the people trying to paint Stewart as being partisan, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/79 "2009-03-12T01:40:10Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > A nice segment about [Joe’s dead intern](http://www.americanpolitics.com/20010808Klausutis.html) might be in order. (the scales fall from my eyes) Ohhhhh! He’s THAT Joe Scarborough. Sorry, but a congressman’s dead employees register on my brain better than live political blowhards. ---
**Author:** ![Trom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@Trom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trom)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543/80 "2009-03-12T03:29:04Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Turns out people don’t like being called losers. I know, I know, go figure. Well, trading floors aren’t known as the most friendly of places. 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-not-piss-off-jon-stewart/488543.md?page=5)