# Do People Who Spank Their Kids Become Aroused By Doing So? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 11, 2003, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-who-spank-their-kids-become-aroused-by-doing-so/168045 "2003-04-11T15:11:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-who-spank-their-kids-become-aroused-by-doing-so/168045/41 "2003-04-11T17:37:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bricker \* > \*\*The more a spanking becomes a ritual, **Surreal** , the more I begin to distrust the motive of the spanker. A quick spank, at the moment of misbehavior, is a highly effective way of using pain to impart a lesson. Negative reinforcement is a powerful teacher, after all. > > The more remote in time the spanking is from the offense, the less teaching value it has. If you’re talking about a highly ritualized behavior, employed on an older child, remote in time from the offense, then would say I don’t agree it’s an effective parenting tool - and I would agree that the motives of the spanker are at least open to question. \*\* Not to link children and pets, but this is the same principle as smacking your dog on the snout if you see him shit on the carpet. If you catch him in the act, a rap on the snout is pretty effective. If you come downstairs to see a pile, you really shouldn’t smack the dog, as he will have no idea why he is being punished. While you don’t smack the kid on the face, a spank to the butt is just as effective, _if used properly_. And behind every spank must be clear justification to the child. If Joey is just sitting watching cartoons when you find his scribblings on the wall of your fancy dining room and did not see him do it, a smack is unwarranted. There is a fine line between a slap for discipline, and a slap “to show who’s boss”. One is to correct behavior, the other is being a thug. ---
**Author:** ![greck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7ab992/32.png) [@greck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/greck)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-who-spank-their-kids-become-aroused-by-doing-so/168045/42 "2003-04-11T17:47:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Surreal \* > \*\* > The bare-bottom spanking method that SOME parents use on their children looks very suspicious to me, however. \*\* Where are these observations taking place? Are you actually claiming to have witnessed many spanking techniques and styles to the extent that you can describe the methodology used by SOME parents as opposed to others? Are you doing some sort of spanking style research that would allow you to view a spanking objectively? You’re silly. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-who-spank-their-kids-become-aroused-by-doing-so/168045/43 "2003-04-11T17:49:42Z")
I wouldn’t mind seeing some evidence as to how widespread this spanking problem is. The OP starts off with a blanket condemnation of all parental spankers, thinly veiled as a question. What the OP actually describes, however, is a highly specific set of actions (“0.8 seconds?”) and it’s unclear how accurate or widespread the practice is. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-who-spank-their-kids-become-aroused-by-doing-so/168045/44 "2003-04-11T17:59:54Z")
I simply don’t know how Surreal has stayed on this board so long. His OPs are MADDENING I tell you. MADDENING ---
**Author:** ![Earthworm\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f07891/32.png) [@Earthworm\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earthworm_Jim)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-who-spank-their-kids-become-aroused-by-doing-so/168045/45 "2003-04-11T18:11:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Surreal \* > \*\*But since I can’t see any reason for spanking a child, I have to speculate as to what the _real_ reason might be. > \*\* In what way are you qualified as an authority on parent-child discipline? ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-who-spank-their-kids-become-aroused-by-doing-so/168045/46 "2003-04-11T18:27:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \* > I simply don’t know how Surreal has stayed on this board so long. His OPs are MADDENING I tell you. MADDENING Oh, I don’t know **jar** … I thought his “Do Black People Think White People Smell?” was a brilliant piece of scientific work. ---
**Author:** ![Berkut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@Berkut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Berkut)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-who-spank-their-kids-become-aroused-by-doing-so/168045/47 "2003-04-11T18:44:52Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Casey1505 \* > \*\* If Joey is just sitting watching cartoons when you find his scribblings on the wall of your fancy dining room_\* Sorry about that, by the way. ---
**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-who-spank-their-kids-become-aroused-by-doing-so/168045/48 "2003-04-11T18:53:03Z")
It happens…you learned your lesson. No Spongebob for 1 week. It wouldn’t have been so bad if we hadn’t just spent the last 3 months remodelling. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-who-spank-their-kids-become-aroused-by-doing-so/168045/49 "2003-04-11T20:28:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Surreal \* > \*\ ***Mangetout** , children _require_ bathing. They DON’T require spanking. There’s a big difference. \*\* I am of the view that corporal punishment is sometimes necessary with some children, although I have never know it conform to the absolutely absurd picture you painted in the OP. Why did you not post this in GD? ---
**Author:** ![Surreal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Surreal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surreal)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-who-spank-their-kids-become-aroused-by-doing-so/168045/50 "2003-04-11T20:52:25Z")
I didn’t post there because 1. I’m not interested in debating anything, or in watching others debate. There’s no point in doing so, because everybody finishes with the same opinions they started with. And even if they didn’t, I’m not interested in changing anyone’s mind about anything anyway. 2. All that would happen is when someone sees something they don’t want to believe, they ask for a cite, no matter how obvious something is. Nothing is accomplished. \*“Spanking is painful.” “Cite?” “The sky is blue.” “Cite?” “Some adults find spanking to be a turn-on.” “Cite?”\* ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-who-spank-their-kids-become-aroused-by-doing-so/168045/51 "2003-04-11T21:13:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Surreal \* > \*\*“Some adults find spanking to be a turn-on.” > > “Cite?”\* \*\* Oh, its _ **some** _. Whyever didn’t you say so in the OP? (I got the impression that you were asserting something universal, with all those ‘facts’ and figures), yes, I’m sure _ **some** _ adults do find spanking to be a turn on, whatever deviant behaviour you care to name, i’m sure that _ **some** _ people find it enjoyable. Your point again? ---
**Author:** ![mipiace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb9ed0/32.png) [@mipiace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mipiace)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-who-spank-their-kids-become-aroused-by-doing-so/168045/52 "2003-04-11T21:36:23Z")
I’l try not to be completely offended by this. The difference is I would never be aroused by my children ever in any situation. If I see them naked, it isn’t arousing. But if I see a grown man naked, it is arousing (well depending on the man). Arousal is as much an emotional response as a physical one and the emotions involved with children are about as far away from sex as they get. If you significant other holds you and kisses you is it arousng? If your parent or child does it is it the same? How ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![Dogface](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@Dogface](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogface)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-who-spank-their-kids-become-aroused-by-doing-so/168045/53 "2003-04-11T21:41:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Surreal \* > \*\*I’m certainly not the only one who has this opinion- > > [http://www.nospank.net/sexdngrs.htm](http://www.nospank.net/sexdngrs.htm) \*\* And I’ve seen people make the argument that breastfeeding is a sick fetish that gives the woman sexual gratification. Whacko political freaks will grasp at any straws for their position. ---
**Author:** ![handy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@handy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handy)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-who-spank-their-kids-become-aroused-by-doing-so/168045/54 "2003-04-11T21:53:27Z")
I wonder if the kids get aroused? BTW, I got spanked. How I got spanked depended on what I did, but the highest it went was bare bottom with a hairbrush. ---
**Author:** ![Mephisto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@Mephisto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mephisto)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-who-spank-their-kids-become-aroused-by-doing-so/168045/55 "2003-04-11T21:53:41Z")
**Surreal** , although I respect your dislike of excessive cries for citation, I would in all seriousness be interested in knowing where you got your numbers for orgasmic contractions of the vagina and prostate per second, as well as your source of info for swats-per-second. As for the question you asked: I believe the number of parents who get sexually aroused by spanking their children is probably even smaller than the number of boys who want to have intercourse with their sisters, which of course is very close to none at all–[here is the thread to which I’m referencing](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=172215&highlight=brother+sister). I cannot help but wonder–and this, I promise, is meant in no way to be offensive–if there is some connection somewhere between this thread and the other? In case anyone would be interested, Desmond Morris actually discussed some things along the lines of subject of the OP in one of his books, though I don’t remember exactly what conclusions, if any, that Morris made. If anyone is seriously interested, though, I would be more than happy to try to dig up the book and quote the appropriate passages. Finally, FTR, when I spank someone, it is not at a rate of 0.8 SPS. However, I have only spanked consenting adults. Cite available on request, with a valid e-mail address and credit card number. 😉 (Just kidding on that last part, of course). ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-who-spank-their-kids-become-aroused-by-doing-so/168045/56 "2003-04-11T22:10:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mephisto \* > \*\*(Just kidding on that last part, of course). \*\* So it is cash only then? ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2003, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-who-spank-their-kids-become-aroused-by-doing-so/168045/57 "2003-04-11T23:03:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Surreal \* > \*\* During intercourse, the fatty tissue of a woman’s upper body experiences the ‘sex flush’. During spanking, the fatty tissue of the buttocks experiences engorgement and redness. Coincidence? \*\* Smacking you across the face a few times will cause swelling and redness too, do you think that falls under the realm of the sexual also? Or how about you fall asleep in the sun and get a sunburn, that causes redness and swelling too, is that also sexual? Or maybe you eat something you’re allergic to, and get hives… There are lots of methods of causing “engorgement and swelling” so what connects _just_ the two you mentioned in such a way? I mean, we either count hives, sunburn and being bitch-slapped in here, or we admit that the connection is so tenuous as to have no meaning. So which is it? ---
**Author:** ![j.c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/73ab20/32.png) [@j.c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j.c)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2003, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-who-spank-their-kids-become-aroused-by-doing-so/168045/58 "2003-04-12T02:58:43Z")
Another part of the bare bottom thing is tradition - back in the day, some people were so poor they barely had a change of clothes. You don’t want to take a hickory switch to threadbare pants that have to handed down to little Timmy - especially when the spanking offense was being careless with good clothes. I suppose that spanking must be sexual, though - look how angry parents grab children by the face and scream, “look at me” when they are trying to stop a spanking offense in the bud. ---
**Author:** ![Mephisto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@Mephisto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mephisto)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2003, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-who-spank-their-kids-become-aroused-by-doing-so/168045/59 "2003-04-12T03:07:19Z")
**Mangetout** : cash is always good. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2003, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-who-spank-their-kids-become-aroused-by-doing-so/168045/60 "2003-04-12T12:31:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Surreal \* > **During spanking, a succession of blows is delivered to the area at a rate of about 0.8 swats per second. During orgasm, contractions of the prostate and the vagina both occur at a 0.8 second interval. Coincidence?** Iduring the last 24 hours I have had the opportunity to empirically test one or more of the above timings (I won’t say which) and I can confirm that it definitely is **not** coincidence. It is bullshit instead. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-who-spank-their-kids-become-aroused-by-doing-so/168045.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-people-who-spank-their-kids-become-aroused-by-doing-so/168045.md?page=4)