That may be in some places - but it’s not the case everywhere. I mean, everyone I hear complaining about ticket quotas actually lives in the area - and there are not that many cars driving around NYC with plates from a state too far away to fight a ticket. And lots of those are people who actually live in NYC and register their car using a relative’s address in Georgia or South Carolina or something. Plus there are plenty of people who live too far away to fight a ticket in person but still have NY plates. Plus, as I said earlier ,I have experience with government vehicles with placards getting parking tickets at the end of the month- even though the ticket writers know the tickets will be dismissed.
I never said “everywhere”. I just said it exists, why it exists and how it can exist.
Which is a hypothesis
There wouldn’t be laws against them, and loopholes to combat those laws, if this was just a hypothesis:
Outlawing Police Quotas | Brennan Center for Justice
https://www.lolaapp.com/XXdo-cops-have-quotas/ Do Police Ticket Quotas Really Exist? A State-by-State Investigation
Do Police Have Quotas? Unveiling The Truth Behind Law Enforcement Practices
I might have missed it - but I didn’t see anything in any of those cites about
You hit the probable vacationers and people from out-of-state (the people from as far away as possible (according to their plates) etc. Revenue gathering via tickets is not just “lets ticket everyone!”, it is ““ticket as many as possible that are unlikely to contest what is happening”.
I don’t think anyone doubts that quotas exist in some places - but the existence of quotas and even that they may exist to produce revenue doesn’t mean you are correct about the police are somehow targeting people who are less likely to fight the ticket. Unless your hypothesis is that the police pull people over and then don’t give them a ticket if there is a local address on the license.
That’s why there are ‘quotas’: because it’s work for no personal benefit. Compelled by quota rather than payola.
My brother worked in a small town for a while. No quota, but most of the tickets were issued in tourist season. Cop worked harder in tourist season because (1) there were more offenders, and (2) so he didn’t have to ticket locals and (3) so it didn’t look like he’d retired on full pay.
My one and only ticket happened when I made the mistake of briefly looking at my phone when I was in wall to wall stopped traffic because I accidentally entered a school zone where approximately ten million kids were all leaving and causing massive lines because kids were jaywalking across the streets to get across.
A cop on a motorcycle drove right down the dotted center line and was literally looking into the stopped cars to his left and right and then pointing out every single person looking at their phone at this particular moment. The moment traffic started moving a different cop car immediately followed me and issued me a ticket for looking at my phone (about $150) and I’m guessing everybody else who the motorcycle cop pointed at got a similar ticket.
It seemed like they had been doing this for a while since this seemed very well rehearsed. I wonder if I could have contested it in court since the officer who gave me the ticket wasn’t the one who saw me on the motorcycle but they probably already had that all lined up too.
Nope, they typically have both/all cops involved in court. However, except for CA lane splitting is illegal. If it was other than CA, you could probably have contested it & gotten off for that reason.
The burden of proof to write a summons is probable cause. The eyewitness account of another police officer is probable cause. The witnessing officer would have to testify if it went to trial.
Probably not. Police vehicles are given latitude on certain things in the course of official duties. Many times by state statute.
It was indeed in California
There’s a suburb of Cleveland where literally 20% of the adult population of the municipality is employed in the traffic-enforcement business. It’s the sole source of revenue for the municipality. When you’re that heavily invested in traffic tickets, you absolutely give out unjustified ones, and also do things like putting in unsafe frequent speed limit changes so you have a pretext for ticketing people for.
This is going back a while, but my dad was stung going through a cutting: they had put the speed sign up on top of the cutting, where people couldn’t see it.
He paid. It gave him some satisfaction that they later tried the same thing on a big-city lawyer, and got slapped down.
and you don’t have to appear in court