# Do school teachers in high demand areas like math & science make more money than other teachers?

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2010, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-school-teachers-in-high-demand-areas-like-math-science-make-more-money-than-other-teachers/538882/21 "2010-05-11T06:35:15Z")

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> [@Capt.Ridley\_s\_Shooting\_Party](#):
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> wat

Why the wat? That’s what their manifesto says. As far as I’m aware you only need a degree of any level to get onto a teacher training programme, although the Labour government was in the process of working teaching up to a Masters level profession too.

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2010, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-school-teachers-in-high-demand-areas-like-math-science-make-more-money-than-other-teachers/538882/22 "2010-05-11T15:13:59Z")

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A year ago, Georgia elected to give new science and/or math teachers a five-year advance on the salary scale. I don’t know if any of them got the advance, since the economy sucked so bad that teachers were furloughed all over the state. Teacher layoffs will be legion here this spring.

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> [@Illuminatiprimus](#):
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> Why the wat? That’s what their manifesto says. As far as I’m aware you only need a degree of any level to get onto a teacher training programme, although the Labour government was in the process of working teaching up to a Masters level profession too.

I think he was asking what a “2:2 degree” is. I’ve never heard the expression, either.

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-school-teachers-in-high-demand-areas-like-math-science-make-more-money-than-other-teachers/538882/24 "2010-05-11T21:05:26Z")

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[quote=“Gary “Wombat” Robson, post:23, topic:538882”]

I think he was asking what a “2:2 degree” is. I’ve never heard the expression, either.  
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CRSP is from the UK so he should have done.

When you get a degree you get (in descending order) either a first, a 2:1, a 2:2 or a pass. So at the moment you just need to pass, but the Cons want to raise the bar up to a 2:2 as the minimum threshold.

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2010, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-school-teachers-in-high-demand-areas-like-math-science-make-more-money-than-other-teachers/538882/25 "2010-05-11T21:46:18Z")

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> [@Illuminatiprimus](#):
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> CRSP is from the UK so he should have done.
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> When you get a degree you get (in descending order) either a first, a 2:1, a 2:2 or a pass. So at the moment you just need to pass, but the Cons want to raise the bar up to a 2:2 as the minimum threshold.

Isn’t there also a Third somewhere in there?

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2010, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-school-teachers-in-high-demand-areas-like-math-science-make-more-money-than-other-teachers/538882/26 "2010-05-11T22:09:27Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Isn’t there also a Third somewhere in there?

Oh, yeah - whoops :o

It’s between 2:2 and pass. The less charitable description of a pass is a gentleman’s fail - it basically says you went to the university but know little more than the bare minimum for the subject.

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-school-teachers-in-high-demand-areas-like-math-science-make-more-money-than-other-teachers/538882/27 "2010-05-12T21:37:01Z")

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Speaking as an ex High School and also an ex College teacher…

No.

I actually brought it up and I thought they would beat the crap out of me. Humanities faculty, in particular, were especially irritated/upset. Why should you get paid more for doing the same job?!

Well, saying … because I am in higher demand!..would have resulted in my death or severe beating. 🙂

It is wrong. Math/Science etc SHOULD be paid more…maybe much more, IMO.

However, as one poster has said…you have much more jobs to choose from…even though they all pay shit. Many Humanities teachers I knew had real problems finding jobs.

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