# Do scientists believe they are better than the rest?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-scientists-believe-they-are-better-than-the-rest/579303>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 22, 2011, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-scientists-believe-they-are-better-than-the-rest/579303 "2011-04-22T00:17:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-scientists-believe-they-are-better-than-the-rest/579303/21 "2011-04-22T01:03:52Z")

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What the cripes are you talking about? I mean, really?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-scientists-believe-they-are-better-than-the-rest/579303/22 "2011-04-22T01:04:37Z")

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You know, **pinguin** , this really isn’t the best message board to go on and on about how dumb and dishonest scientists are.

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**Author:** ![pinguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac8455/32.png) [@pinguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinguin)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-scientists-believe-they-are-better-than-the-rest/579303/23 "2011-04-22T01:06:13Z")

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I am just curious about the psicology of the scientist. I study Michio Kaku, Carl Sagan and other patriarcal scientists to see theirs deep motivations. I like to see how Kaku, for instance, claim everything has been invented by physicists, including all the development in computer science!

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-scientists-believe-they-are-better-than-the-rest/579303/24 "2011-04-22T01:06:43Z")

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> [@Meyer6](#):
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> Where the heck else would scientists work other than private companies, universities, or research labs?

I understand that volcano-lairs are quite popular with the mad scientist set.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-scientists-believe-they-are-better-than-the-rest/579303/25 "2011-04-22T01:09:30Z")

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> [@Zany\_Zeolite\_Zipper](#):
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> No, no, no. Scientists are the grass of business. Engineers are the cows. We eat the scientists and build something for the business to sell.

I’m a lawyer. I hate to think what part of this metaphore we play. 😃

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-scientists-believe-they-are-better-than-the-rest/579303/26 "2011-04-22T01:10:49Z")

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Wolves.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-scientists-believe-they-are-better-than-the-rest/579303/27 "2011-04-22T01:11:09Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> I’m a lawyer. I hate to think what part of this metaphore we play. 😃

Scientists poop out the patent lawyers, of course!

(I used to help write biotech patents, so I get to joke!).

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-scientists-believe-they-are-better-than-the-rest/579303/28 "2011-04-22T01:12:54Z")

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I was _expecting_ poop, but I’d have settled for “tapeworms” or “bot fly larvae”. 😉

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-scientists-believe-they-are-better-than-the-rest/579303/29 "2011-04-22T01:17:41Z")

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Actually, since there is no actual thesis presented and it sounds like a poll, this thread will do better in In My Humble Opinion than in Great Debates.

So moved.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-scientists-believe-they-are-better-than-the-rest/579303/30 "2011-04-22T02:16:16Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> I understand that volcano-lairs are quite popular with the mad scientist set.

Volcano lairs. Old castles. Deserted islands.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-scientists-believe-they-are-better-than-the-rest/579303/31 "2011-04-22T02:19:07Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Volcano lairs. Old castles. Deserted islands.

Cloaked satellites. Moon bases. Deep in the Amazon jungle. In the basement of abandoned hospitals.

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**Author:** ![pinguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac8455/32.png) [@pinguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinguin)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-scientists-believe-they-are-better-than-the-rest/579303/32 "2011-04-22T02:23:14Z")

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What Amazon jungle? Do you mean, the Amazonian farms of ethanol?

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-scientists-believe-they-are-better-than-the-rest/579303/33 "2011-04-22T02:25:49Z")

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> [@pinguin](#):
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> So, they believe they are the “chosen” people, the “superior” race, or just they are sure they are “alphas”?
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> If so, why scientists work in private companies, universities and research labs, ruled by business people?

What are you babling about?😕

What do you consider a “scientist”? Researchers at GlaxoSmithKlein or Amgen? Engineers at Boeing or Ford? A geologist working at Exxon Mobil?

And what sort of background do you think the “business people” who “rule them” have? They may be MBAs, but they typically started out as scientists before venturing into management.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-scientists-believe-they-are-better-than-the-rest/579303/34 "2011-04-22T02:26:10Z")

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> [@pinguin](#):
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> What Amazon jungle? Do you mean, the Amazonian farms of ethanol?

He is referring to the villain Hugo Drax’s lair locations in James Bond’s _Moonraker_.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-scientists-believe-they-are-better-than-the-rest/579303/35 "2011-04-22T02:56:21Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Cloaked satellites. Moon bases. Deep in the Amazon jungle. In the basement of abandoned hospitals.

With pools, filled with sharks. With frickin’ **lasers**.

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**Author:** ![pinguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac8455/32.png) [@pinguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinguin)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-scientists-believe-they-are-better-than-the-rest/579303/36 "2011-04-22T02:58:13Z")

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Yes, and I was talking about the fact the Amazonian jungle is shrinking fast. Too bad for poor James Bond’s villains.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-scientists-believe-they-are-better-than-the-rest/579303/37 "2011-04-22T02:59:47Z")

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> [@pinguin](#):
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> What do you think? Do scientists believe they are smarter than the rest of humans?

By this, do you mean to imply that you are smarter than most scientists?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-scientists-believe-they-are-better-than-the-rest/579303/38 "2011-04-22T03:09:21Z")

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> [@pinguin](#):
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> Yes, and I was talking about the fact the Amazonian jungle is shrinking fast. Too bad for poor James Bond’s villains.

Don’t be silly. That’s part of the _Plan!_

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**Author:** ![pinguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac8455/32.png) [@pinguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinguin)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-scientists-believe-they-are-better-than-the-rest/579303/39 "2011-04-22T03:18:55Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Don’t be silly. That’s part of the _Plan!_

😃

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**Author:** ![Hennessy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hennessy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hennessy)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2011, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-scientists-believe-they-are-better-than-the-rest/579303/40 "2011-04-22T03:22:20Z")

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It is not healthy to associate things like this… Take off his scientist suit and what do you see? A random guy at K-mart…

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