# Do Some Folks Just Not Accept the Concept of “giving up on people”? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 19, 2023, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-some-folks-just-not-accept-the-concept-of-giving-up-on-people/980035 "2023-02-19T12:47:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-some-folks-just-not-accept-the-concept-of-giving-up-on-people/980035/61 "2023-02-22T09:00:56Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > From the limited sample of MAGA-ers I’ve interacted with Huh. The odd thing I was talking (trying to talk?) about people who persist in enabling MAGA-ers. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-some-folks-just-not-accept-the-concept-of-giving-up-on-people/980035/62 "2023-02-22T09:09:26Z")
Sorry, I mis-read. Well, even still - in the same way some people cannot ever admit wrong, some other people cannot ever stop trying to get the former to admit wrong. Everyone has an innate deep-down inability to see “the truth” not being adhered to. ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-some-folks-just-not-accept-the-concept-of-giving-up-on-people/980035/63 "2023-02-22T19:52:01Z")
The other day, I saw a truck with “TRUMP 2024 - F\*CK YOUR FEELINGS” in big letters. How should I establish a dialogue with that person? If you’re someone who listens to reason and can change your mind when shown that you’re wrong, you may be projecting when you think everyone is like that. ---
**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-some-folks-just-not-accept-the-concept-of-giving-up-on-people/980035/64 "2023-02-22T20:01:29Z")
> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#): > > TRUMP 2024 - F\*CK YOUR FEELINGS Your asterisk or theirs? ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-some-folks-just-not-accept-the-concept-of-giving-up-on-people/980035/65 "2023-02-22T20:01:51Z")
Mine. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2023, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-some-folks-just-not-accept-the-concept-of-giving-up-on-people/980035/66 "2023-02-22T20:38:20Z")
> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#): > > The other day, I saw a truck with “TRUMP 2024 - F\*CK YOUR FEELINGS” in big letters. How should I establish a dialogue with that person? “You got a favorite work by Kierkegaard?” ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-some-folks-just-not-accept-the-concept-of-giving-up-on-people/980035/67 "2023-02-23T15:55:11Z")
It’s both sad and amusing that the “Fuck your feelings” crowd are the same people who will throw a complete shit-fit over a kneeling football player or the color of a Starbucks cup. ---
**Author:** ![slicedalone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slicedalone/32/12515_2.png) [@slicedalone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slicedalone)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-some-folks-just-not-accept-the-concept-of-giving-up-on-people/980035/68 "2023-02-23T15:56:49Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > the “Fuck your feelings” crowd are the same people who will throw a complete shit-fit over a kneeling football player Well, they don’t have feelings. They have insights that are correct. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-some-folks-just-not-accept-the-concept-of-giving-up-on-people/980035/69 "2023-02-23T16:00:48Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > It’s both sad and amusing that the “Fuck your feelings” crowd are the same people who will throw a complete shit-fit over a kneeling football player or the color of a Starbucks cup. Those reactions aren’t motivated by feelings. They’re prompted by clear, existential threats to people’s way of life. /s ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-some-folks-just-not-accept-the-concept-of-giving-up-on-people/980035/70 "2023-02-23T21:44:51Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > It’s both sad and amusing that the “Fuck your feelings” crowd are the same people who will throw a complete shit-fit over a kneeling football player or the color of a Starbucks cup. They’re not saying “fuck your _feelings_”; they’re saying “fuck _your_ feelings.” ---
**Author:** ![fordgt100](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@fordgt100](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fordgt100)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-some-folks-just-not-accept-the-concept-of-giving-up-on-people/980035/71 "2023-02-25T09:46:16Z")
Yes, I do agree that is is useful to give up on people. But to me its not giving up, its more about finally getting what someone is really about. All of us initially put on a bit of a false front, but after a while a pattern emerges, and at some point it becomes very clear that someone is toxic. Buddha, who was just a guy, so this is not religious or anything, is alleged to have said that if you can’t find suitable friends it is better to walk the path alone. I agree w/ that. The company we keep can bring us down, or bring us up. But, I won’t do that unless it’s absolutely true. Reading people is very complicated. I’m more than sure that many times I have said something that was totally stupid because sometimes I am stupid. It really comes down to whether the pendulum swings so much and so frequently that you realize there is no other real recourse. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-some-folks-just-not-accept-the-concept-of-giving-up-on-people/980035/72 "2023-02-25T09:56:11Z")
Or, the ones who say 'Facts don’t care about your feelings" are the most pissed off when facts do clash with their feelings. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-some-folks-just-not-accept-the-concept-of-giving-up-on-people/980035/73 "2023-02-25T11:58:41Z")
Said another way their Faux Facts™ totally Trump your puny feelings. Screw 'em says I. And the moron they rode in on. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2023, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-some-folks-just-not-accept-the-concept-of-giving-up-on-people/980035/74 "2023-02-26T13:26:30Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > the ones who say 'Facts don’t care about your feelings" are the most pissed off when facts do clash with their feelings If they clash with their feelings of what is right and true, then those cannot be real facts. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-some-folks-just-not-accept-the-concept-of-giving-up-on-people/980035.md?page=3)