# Do the events in Ferguson, MO increase your support for gun rights?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-events-in-ferguson-mo-increase-your-support-for-gun-rights/696387>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [August 24, 2014, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-events-in-ferguson-mo-increase-your-support-for-gun-rights/696387 "2014-08-24T17:03:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-events-in-ferguson-mo-increase-your-support-for-gun-rights/696387/41 "2014-08-26T15:13:36Z")

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> [@GusNSpot](#):
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> No, it is where I ask ‘how many?’
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> What cross section of people , their color, their economic circumstances, stuff like that.

Nah. I was just answering the OP, not looking to convince you that I was talking to the “correct” demographics to get the answer you think I should have gotten.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-events-in-ferguson-mo-increase-your-support-for-gun-rights/696387/42 "2014-08-26T15:15:01Z")

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> [@Stuffy](#):
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> I’m going with this one too. Whenever I hear gun rights guys now, I just hear “I want to shoot some minorities”.

The shopkeeper who got strongarmed by that thug is a minority, isn’t he? I support his right to own a gun _regardless_ of the color of any thugs who assault him in the future.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-events-in-ferguson-mo-increase-your-support-for-gun-rights/696387/43 "2014-08-26T17:07:57Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> This. It would just be used as an excuse to kill the protestors.

Everyone of the protesters could have been carrying according to MO law. So this post is a fail and conflicts with reality since the police did not kill the protesters in actual reality.

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**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-events-in-ferguson-mo-increase-your-support-for-gun-rights/696387/44 "2014-08-26T18:05:49Z")

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I haven’t changed my mind on gun control, and I have enjoyed seeing images of shopkeepers who protected their own shops with their firearms in the absence of police protection.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-events-in-ferguson-mo-increase-your-support-for-gun-rights/696387/45 "2014-08-26T18:46:44Z")

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I’m for gun control but I’d be fine if only black people have guns for a while. 😃

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**Author:** ![Algher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Algher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algher)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-events-in-ferguson-mo-increase-your-support-for-gun-rights/696387/46 "2014-08-26T18:55:26Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> I’m for gun control but I’d be fine if only black people have guns for a while. 😃

Several years ago I helped out a Pink Pistols group get going. I would love to see a gun club start training the locals in Ferguson.

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**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-events-in-ferguson-mo-increase-your-support-for-gun-rights/696387/47 "2014-08-26T20:22:40Z")

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I wonder how many people who were at the MO site of this place where a man got shot in the first 3 days that were armed legally or not and with a gun, knife over 4" long of blade, brass knuckles, some sort of club? ( not counting LEO’s )

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**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2014, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-events-in-ferguson-mo-increase-your-support-for-gun-rights/696387/48 "2014-08-26T23:38:03Z")

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Sure, the police (and, though it is a separate issue, the security services) have been overreaching and need reining in. Enabling or encouraging members of the public to shoot at them is about the most effective way I could imagine to make the situation much worse than it is.

America is nowhere near being ripe for revolution, but, even if it were, real revolutions do not happen when the citizenry take up arms against the police and/or military. When that happens, the rebels lose, and repression becomes all the tighter. Real revolutions happen when the police and military (or large segments of them), join with the rest of the citizenry (or a large segment of it) in overthrowing the governmental system.

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