# Do the new tobacco warnings violate 1st Amendment rights? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [August 17, 2011, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-new-tobacco-warnings-violate-1st-amendment-rights/593003 "2011-08-17T06:58:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 142
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-new-tobacco-warnings-violate-1st-amendment-rights/593003/142 "2011-08-22T19:18:11Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > You are paraphrasing me, and then claiming you’re quoting me. Yet again, false. I quoted you, and stated what you said. Which happened to be in the quote. Your snark about “trying the quote feature” is amusing, [considering I did.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14160497&postcount=83) I suppose you can claim that by “not so much” you didn’t actually mean “no”. As this is a board for people who speak English, most of whom are native English speakers, will you have much luck? Not so much. Of course, you also ignore how I just cited and quoted you _agreeing, explicitly_ that your argument was that photos (not “the photos” or “some photos” or “a few of the specific photos” just “photos” were not accurate or factual, and refusing to retract that argument.) Just like claiming that by “not so much” you didn’t really mean “no”, I suppose you can also claim that “Uh… no, I don’t retract it. Obviously.” really means “I never made that argument.” Generally people only say that they will not retract an argument if, well, it actually exists, however. I also note that you’ve ignored the (repeated) request to show how I actually committed the fallacy of equivocation, rather than changing the subject to Michelle Bachman’s breadcrumbs, or some such. Obviously, that is because it would take a few keystrokes for you to convincingly and clearly prove that I am in fact wrong and did in fact commit the fallacy of equivocation, but _hey look over there!!!_ > [@Can all I-pods use the belkin voice recorder?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-all-i-pods-use-the-belkin-voice-recorder/210285/2): > > My argument is: the courts will decide that at least one of the FDA-proposed pictures, when tobacco companies are compelled to use it on ciagrette packaging, violates the First Amendment. Quite odd, then, that you posted again and again claiming that pictures were not legal to use as warnings on cigarette packs and insulting people’s understanding of the relevant law/facts when your first post should have read “Of course it’s legal but I see a potential challenge to three of the FDA’s proposed pictures. But if they were changed then they too would be legal. But yes, the majority of new FDA warning pictures do not violate the first amendment and the others can be changed through a trivial substitution of other photos so that the entire raft of pictures will then be 100% fine and beyond rational legal challenge. Also Finn is dead sexy.” > [@Can all I-pods use the belkin voice recorder?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/can-all-i-pods-use-the-belkin-voice-recorder/210285/2): > > Actually, don’t bother responding. I’m done with you in this thread. You’re fired as my debate opponent. I will admit, that is one of the more inventive ways I’ve ever seen anybody try to get the last word in a GD thread. Not only will I have to content myself (as I sob myself to sleep, no doubt) with being fired by you, I will have to content myself that I have addressed the actual facts and cited your actual words and not, ya know, done something like tried to change the subject to Newsweek’s cover of Michelle Bachman. I will also content myself with the fact that I can continue to eviscerate the nonsense in your argument even without your permission. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-new-tobacco-warnings-violate-1st-amendment-rights/593003)._