# Do the people who run this site care about the bad performance? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [September 15, 2009, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-people-who-run-this-site-care-about-the-bad-performance/510185 "2009-09-15T16:00:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-people-who-run-this-site-care-about-the-bad-performance/510185/21 "2009-09-16T10:57:32Z")
> [@RaftPeople](#): > > So, you cleared your cache and you’re still getting database errors? Hmmm. Well you should check these other things that could cause database errors: > > 1. Stuck key on your keyboard > 2. Wi-fi password too long > 3. House electricity out of phase > 4. PC not set to daylight savings time > 5. Wi-fi password too short > 6. Digital camera plugged into a low speed usb port > Note: this attempt at humor is not directed at you, just having fun with the general notion that a database error might be something other than the database on the server Your post’s attempt failed. The OP said nothing about database errors until well within the thread. Therefore, there exists no such “general notion”. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-people-who-run-this-site-care-about-the-bad-performance/510185/22 "2009-09-16T11:11:46Z")
> [@Ed\_Zotti](#): > > So my initial thought is that the problems you’re having now are local to your system. Once in a while I still get an unformatted page, but this always resolves on refresh. If others are having persistent problems (as opposed to the odd infrequent glitch), please advise and we will investigate further. Without putting words into the OP’s mouth, I think that’s what he/she was talking about. Odd infrequent database errors, mainly. I still get them, we all do. Certainly infinitely better than a month ago when they were many and regular. It’s still irritating. Not complaining from my end. I"ve learned to live with it, by refreshing the page as you suggested. And it happens, in general, few enough times to not cause rage. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-people-who-run-this-site-care-about-the-bad-performance/510185/23 "2009-09-16T14:08:55Z")
Data base errors, lots of them, just the last few weeks, usually in the mornings, but not only. I would complain, but, really, what’s the point? I’d wager most of the people having problems feel about the same. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-people-who-run-this-site-care-about-the-bad-performance/510185/24 "2009-09-16T14:11:54Z")
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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-people-who-run-this-site-care-about-the-bad-performance/510185/25 "2009-09-16T14:25:33Z")
I think the people running the board (ie, Creative Loafing) really have bigger problems at the moment than the performance of this messageboard, unfortunately. ---
**Author:** ![Ed\_Zotti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/fbc32d/32.png) [@Ed\_Zotti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ed_Zotti)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-people-who-run-this-site-care-about-the-bad-performance/510185/26 "2009-09-16T14:29:18Z")
> [@peri](#): > > I get database errors several times a week. I am generally browsing in the afternoon or late at night. The problem is on your end. We need to be clear about which problem we’re talking about. The OP talked about “constant crashes,” and had also posted in the thread about slow operation and apparent lockups in the mornings. It seemed reasonable to assume these were the constant crashes being referred to. I believe this issue has been resolved. The database errors are a different problem; you’re quite right that it’s on our end, not yours. The errors in my observation go away on refresh and are mainly an irritant; that said, I agree they look a little bush. I don’t profess to be a database expert, but wonder if they’re another consequence of mirroring. Since that’s suspended in the mornings now, if database errors no longer occur then, that would tell us something. Please advise if you get database errors in the morning, and if so time/time zone/date. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![DudleyGarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d9b06d/32.png) [@DudleyGarrett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DudleyGarrett)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-people-who-run-this-site-care-about-the-bad-performance/510185/27 "2009-09-16T14:29:41Z")
> [@Martini\_Enfield](#): > > I think the people running the board (ie, Creative Loafing) really have bigger problems at the moment than the performance of this messageboard, unfortunately. [derail] Really? I thought they were bought for a hefty sum. [/derail] ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-people-who-run-this-site-care-about-the-bad-performance/510185/28 "2009-09-16T15:12:37Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Your post’s attempt failed. I think what you mean to say is that my attempt failed for X% of the posters while succeeding with Y% of the posters and was unread by Z% of the posters. Unfortunately we don’t actually know what those percents are. However, if polls were enabled we could probably figure it out pretty quick. 🙂 > [@](#): > > The OP said nothing about database errors until well within the thread. Therefore, there exists no such “general notion”. I wasn’t knocking your recommendation from earlier. For the last 5 years there have been many that have offered up suggestions that the database errors are due to local factors, that’s what I was referring to, not everyone thinks it, but it has come up enough I decided to have some fun with it. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-people-who-run-this-site-care-about-the-bad-performance/510185/29 "2009-09-16T15:19:05Z")
> [@Ed\_Zotti](#): > > Please advise if you get database errors in the morning, and if so time/time zone/date. Thanks. I just got a database error this morning, about 10:15 AM Central time, 9/16/09. ---
**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-people-who-run-this-site-care-about-the-bad-performance/510185/30 "2009-09-16T16:01:56Z")
I have been trying to respond to this thread for about two hours now, but it keeps on timing out. (17:00 BST). This happens two or three times a week. I’ve grown used to it; I’m not too bothered - it’s only a message board after all. But this is the only message board I use that it happens on. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-people-who-run-this-site-care-about-the-bad-performance/510185/31 "2009-09-16T17:08:31Z")
I had like 4 database errors, eventually could read the forums page and then more errors when trying to select a forum, won’t load. No problems on any other sites, between 8 - 10am, this morning. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-people-who-run-this-site-care-about-the-bad-performance/510185/32 "2009-09-16T18:28:30Z")
I’m glad the earlier problem with mornings was fixed. Why not have a post that says it was fixed? I thought it was fixed but I was not sure since there was no post telling me that it was fixed. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-people-who-run-this-site-care-about-the-bad-performance/510185/33 "2009-09-16T19:05:15Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > I’m glad the earlier problem with mornings was fixed. Why not have a post that says it was fixed? I thought it was fixed but I was not sure since there was no post telling me that it was fixed. Generally if there was intervention of some sort there’s a posting made about it. Not always but mostly. Sometimes the problem and the solution come outside of this site and we don’t have a damn thing to do with the resolution – it just happens, it just stops happening. There’s usually no posting when that occurs because it’s not something we generated. This is one of those times. We don’t know why it happened, we don’t know why it stopped happening. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-people-who-run-this-site-care-about-the-bad-performance/510185/34 "2009-09-16T19:26:08Z")
I had the same problem as \*\*Oakminster \*\*at about the same time. First time it’s happened to me in a couple of weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-people-who-run-this-site-care-about-the-bad-performance/510185/35 "2009-09-16T19:57:38Z")
> [@RaftPeople](#): > > I think what you mean to say is that my attempt failed for X% of the posters while succeeding with Y% of the posters and was unread by Z% of the posters. > > Unfortunately we don’t actually know what those percents are. However, if polls were enabled we could probably figure it out pretty quick. 🙂 A point well taken. 🙂 > [@](#): > > I wasn’t knocking your recommendation from earlier. For the last 5 years there have been many that have offered up suggestions that the database errors are due to local factors, that’s what I was referring to, not everyone thinks it, but it has come up enough I decided to have some fun with it. My bad, then. And my apology as well. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-people-who-run-this-site-care-about-the-bad-performance/510185/36 "2009-09-16T20:19:44Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#): > > Generally if there was intervention of some sort there’s a posting made about it. Not always but mostly. > > Sometimes the problem and the solution come outside of this site and we don’t have a damn thing to do with the resolution – it just happens, it just stops happening. There’s usually no posting when that occurs because it’s not something we generated. This is one of those times. We don’t know why it happened, we don’t know why it stopped happening. Wasn’t there was a post in this thread that explained the problem and the solution? See post #15 ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-people-who-run-this-site-care-about-the-bad-performance/510185/37 "2009-09-16T20:50:13Z")
Not sure there’s a connection between a previously observed and documented problem and what happened this morning – not sure at all. And we’ve had these sorts of things before – the board collapses and then resets. No intervention to make it happen, any of it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-people-who-run-this-site-care-about-the-bad-performance/510185.md?page=1)