# Do the pros of Berkeley's gender-pronoun-ban outweigh the cons?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-pros-of-berkeleys-gender-pronoun-ban-outweigh-the-cons/837361>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [July 20, 2019, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-pros-of-berkeleys-gender-pronoun-ban-outweigh-the-cons/837361 "2019-07-20T19:24:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-pros-of-berkeleys-gender-pronoun-ban-outweigh-the-cons/837361/61 "2019-07-22T23:53:00Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> I’m not willing to pay 6 cents for that purpose let alone $600.

Do you live in Berkeley? No? Then nobody’s asking you to pay anything.

Go find something that matters to complain about.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2019, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-pros-of-berkeleys-gender-pronoun-ban-outweigh-the-cons/837361/62 "2019-07-22T23:54:44Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> I’m not willing to pay 6 cents for that purpose let alone $600.

Then don’t.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-pros-of-berkeleys-gender-pronoun-ban-outweigh-the-cons/837361/63 "2019-07-23T00:00:51Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> I’m not willing to pay 6 cents for that purpose let alone $600.

I’m not willing to pay 6 cents for them to clean the carpets four times annually instead of three times.

Too bad nobody gives a shit about my opinion on carpet-cleaning or yours on pronoun-changing.

Silver lining, though, is that also nobody’s asking you or me to pay for carpet-cleaning or pronoun-changing, which is part of the no-shits-given-rationale.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2019, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-pros-of-berkeleys-gender-pronoun-ban-outweigh-the-cons/837361/64 "2019-07-23T01:23:44Z")

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This thread appears to have been opened where the OP had no knowledge of the actual wording of the proposed changes.  
The OP has not returned to the thread to defend a position based on clear errors or to seek an understanding of what had been proposed.  
The error laden OP appears to be an attempt to start a (rather weak) rant.  
The rant is too weak for The BBQ Pit and it is not generating any serious debate.

I am closing it.

If anyone believe that there is a serious debate to be had, here, they may open a new thread. However, that thread must state clearly what the change in ordinance proposes. Any more nonsense about not identifying perpetrators or victims of crime by race, sex, etc. will get that thread closed, as well.

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