# Do the words "song" and "long" rhyme?

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**Created:** [June 25, 2014, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-the-words-song-and-long-rhyme/691624 "2014-06-25T17:14:08Z")\
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For me, and for most English speakers, all four of those words rhyme, but there are some accents where one or more of them are differentiated. For instance:

> [@Teaching phonics in regions with drawls](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/teaching-phonics-in-regions-with-drawls/612655/10):
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> I once knew someone who was a teacher on Long Island. She had a somewhat Midwesternized accent, but many of her coworkers had strong LI accents. She was preparing a lesson one day about rhyming words, and was writing pairs of words on a poster: cat/hat, mouse/house, dog/log, and so on. Another teacher looked at the poster and said, confused, “Doawg and laahg?! Those don’t rhyme!”

I’m also curious to know about **suranyi’s** accent, and **Alessan’s**. My guesses: **suranyi** says “song” and “gong” with a more front, unrounded vowel, closer to “ah”, and “long” and “wrong” with a more back, rounded vowel, closer to “aw”. For **Alessan’s** , I’m going to go out on a limb and say that the three rhyming words are all somewhere between “ah” and “aw”, while “gong” is actually more of an “oh” sound, like “bone”. Did I win anything?  
Also, apparently this kind of thing comes up a lot with “[Hop on Pop](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=641931)”!

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