# Do they make a device to keep your shirt collar upright? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [April 20, 2022, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-make-a-device-to-keep-your-shirt-collar-upright/963114 "2022-04-20T14:26:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![obbn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d6d6ee/32.png) [@obbn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obbn)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-make-a-device-to-keep-your-shirt-collar-upright/963114/1 "2022-04-20T14:26:00Z")
Hello Everyone, I wear a uniform everyday that has insignia pinned to both collars. It really annoys me that throughout the day I’ll find my collar laying flat against the shirt instead of upright. I’ve tried heavy starch and that didn’t help. Anytime know if there is a device made to keep collars upright? I tried Amazon, but couldn’t think of a good search term. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-make-a-device-to-keep-your-shirt-collar-upright/963114/2 "2022-04-20T14:27:51Z")
[Collar stays](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collar_stay)? Some shirts have pockets on the underside for the stays. ---
**Author:** ![obbn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d6d6ee/32.png) [@obbn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obbn)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-make-a-device-to-keep-your-shirt-collar-upright/963114/3 "2022-04-20T14:34:29Z")
Negative. Our uniforms have sewn in collar stays. As far as I can tell, their purpose is to keep the collar point from curling. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-make-a-device-to-keep-your-shirt-collar-upright/963114/4 "2022-04-20T14:37:03Z")
Well, when button down dress shirts are sold in cellophane, there is a cardboard sleeve inserted to keep the collar upright. So maybe replicate that, though perhaps not in cardboard? ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-make-a-device-to-keep-your-shirt-collar-upright/963114/5 "2022-04-20T14:52:54Z")
[Here’s a collar for your collar.](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CTZYF7V/) [Here’s another type](https://www.amazon.com/Adjustable-Metal-Collar-Support-Off-White/dp/B01C4RT9IK) [This guy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXFzLEDqO3E) with a YouTube channel about men’s fashion wants you to use magnetic collar stays and something called a [Million Dollar Collar](https://milliondollarcollar.com/) to help you stay crisp. But you have to have the MDC installed in your uniform shirts. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-make-a-device-to-keep-your-shirt-collar-upright/963114/6 "2022-04-20T17:54:23Z")
You need a 1920s-style collar. [![](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6e/c5/4d/6ec54df525239d1050aaa0bfadc26d3c.jpg) ](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6e/c5/4d/6ec54df525239d1050aaa0bfadc26d3c.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-make-a-device-to-keep-your-shirt-collar-upright/963114/7 "2022-04-20T18:15:55Z")
I went to college in Troy, New York and the city is known as the Collar City. Supposedly a nineteenth century housewife was tired of laundering her husband’s shirts so she developed detachable shirt collars and a whole industry developed around the idea. Many were made of celluloid. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-make-a-device-to-keep-your-shirt-collar-upright/963114/8 "2022-04-20T18:35:31Z")
A problem with stiff detachable collars was that they predisposed to asphyxia, supposedly fatal in some cases. The celluloid type was [highly flammable](https://cheegs.com/blogs/blog/the-intriguing-history-of-the-shirt-collar), which posed a risk to smokers. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2022, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-make-a-device-to-keep-your-shirt-collar-upright/963114/9 "2022-04-20T21:11:20Z")
I hate to mention the obvious, but have you [measured your neck](https://www.hawesandcurtis.com/how-to-measure) against the collar to make sure you have a good fit? ---
**Author:** ![obbn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d6d6ee/32.png) [@obbn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obbn)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2022, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-make-a-device-to-keep-your-shirt-collar-upright/963114/10 "2022-04-21T12:44:07Z")
We were measured for our uniforms when issued and then we were required to go to a tailor and have them fitted. Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I’ve ordered a collar device from Amazon.