# Do they show replays of disgraced players? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl, baseball-mlb\ **Created:** [December 26, 2023, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-show-replays-of-disgraced-players/995146 "2023-12-26T03:48:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-show-replays-of-disgraced-players/995146/1 "2023-12-26T03:48:00Z")
I was watching the Monday Night game and they showed some replays of previous games on Xmas. That got me to thinking, do they ever show great plays by OJ Simpson or Pete Rose and the like during regular football or baseball games? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-show-replays-of-disgraced-players/995146/2 "2023-12-26T05:12:38Z")
I believe the WWE scrubbed all of Chris Benoit’s highlights and matches from its website after he murdered his family. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-show-replays-of-disgraced-players/995146/3 "2023-12-26T06:16:20Z")
If you subscribe to WWE via Peacock, you can watch old PPVs and episodes of Raw/Smackdown/Nitro that he’s in, but they won’t ever mention him in a current episode. It becomes noticeable around Royal Rumble time, because he’s one of only four people (alongside Shawn Michaels, Edge, and Rhea Ripley) to start from #1 and end up winning, and any time someone looks like they might do so the commentators have to talk up how rare an achievement it is without mentioning that he was the second person to do it and it took nearly 20 years before the third and fourth ones did so. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2023, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-show-replays-of-disgraced-players/995146/4 "2023-12-26T06:46:51Z")
I guess it depends who the producer is. An MLB-produced thing isn’t gonna show Pete Rose. The Blue Jays have completely, totally unpersoned Roberto Alomar since his banishment from MLB. He is never shown or mentioned, ever, in any context. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2023, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-show-replays-of-disgraced-players/995146/5 "2023-12-27T02:09:00Z")
They often show brief clips of OJ when they talk about the NFL rushing record (he’s the only one to run for 2,000 yards in a 14-game season). ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2023, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-show-replays-of-disgraced-players/995146/6 "2023-12-27T02:18:54Z")
I’ve seen replays of Pete Rose bowling over Ray Fosse at home plate. Of course, since that’s often considered a disgraceful play, that may be a bad example. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2023, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-show-replays-of-disgraced-players/995146/7 "2023-12-27T03:17:14Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > The Blue Jays have completely, totally unpersoned Roberto Alomar since his banishment from MLB. He is never shown or mentioned, ever, in any context. Do the Cubs still pretend Sammy Sosa never did anything for them? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2023, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-show-replays-of-disgraced-players/995146/8 "2023-12-27T03:40:30Z")
I’m not sure. Sosa, of course, is not banned from baseball. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2023, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-show-replays-of-disgraced-players/995146/9 "2023-12-27T21:51:08Z")
For Sosa, sure they’ll show old Cubs games from the Sosa era on the Cubs Marquee network during the offseason and nothing about Sosa is omitted. Of course, the way he left means that he probably won’t be featured on any documentaries ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2023, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-show-replays-of-disgraced-players/995146/10 "2023-12-28T05:19:54Z")
Sosa isn’t really on the naughty list. Everyone assumes he was a steroids guy like everyone else back then, but he managed to avoid any positive tests or other smoking guns. He turned out to be a very weird human, but there’s not much reason to censor him unless you’re censoring the entire steroid era. Certainly the McGuire-Sosa HR race still gets plenty of air time in spite of the taint, especially when it’s the Cubs-Cards on national TV. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2023, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-show-replays-of-disgraced-players/995146/11 "2023-12-28T14:33:09Z")
Wait, I missed it. What was Sosa’s disgrace or oddity or whatever? ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2023, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-show-replays-of-disgraced-players/995146/12 "2023-12-28T17:35:09Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > What was Sosa’s disgrace or oddity or whatever? He’s now white. (And lives in Dubai) For real. [![](https://i.ibb.co/3pCPrwD/B17-BE892-6564-444-B-AE42-5-C1210-AAF23-D.png) ](https://i.ibb.co/3pCPrwD/B17-BE892-6564-444-B-AE42-5-C1210-AAF23-D.png) ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2023, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-show-replays-of-disgraced-players/995146/13 "2023-12-28T17:43:03Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Sosa isn’t really on the naughty list. Everyone assumes he was a steroids guy like everyone else back then, but he managed to avoid any positive tests or other smoking guns. He turned out to be a very weird human, but there’s not much reason to censor him unless you’re censoring the entire steroid era. > [@Chronos](#): > > Wait, I missed it. What was Sosa’s disgrace or oddity or whatever? Count me in as one of those on the list who assumed he had been officially caught for steroid use. I didn’t know he was never officially caught, although I do still presume that he was using. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2023, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-show-replays-of-disgraced-players/995146/14 "2023-12-28T20:01:57Z")
They still play (or did the last time I was there) highlights of OJ’s many accomplishments on the JumboTron in the Coliseum. Semi-related: After the Reggie Bush Bru-ha-ha, I’d heard there was a ‘dis-avowing’ of him and his records, and he was to be effectively erased. The next season, the VERY FIRST AFLAC TRIVA QUESTION was… you guessed it. Reggie Bush. 🙄 He should get his doorstop back. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-show-replays-of-disgraced-players/995146/15 "2023-12-29T00:54:12Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > Count me in as one of those on the list who assumed he had been officially caught for steroid use. I didn’t know he was never officially caught, although I do still presume that he was using. Sosa was supposedly on the 2003 “anonymous” survey of PED tests that the NYT leaked. But there’s an open question on how reliable that report is. It’s never been confirmed. Sosa was not on the more damning Mitchell Report 4 years later. Sosa has never admitted to use nor did he ever fail a PED test. He was suspended for a corked bat, which seems like an isolated incident after they scanned some 75 of his bats in the HOF, but never for substances. Sosa was never associated with Balco or any of the better documented stuff that came out over time that tainted pretty much all of the big names. He’s also remained staunch in his denials. I think you’d have to be a fool to think he was clean, but whatever program that he was on seems to be outside of the mainstream that all the other players were on. His juice guy was probably his skin bleaching guy. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-show-replays-of-disgraced-players/995146/16 "2023-12-29T17:13:35Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Sosa was supposedly on the 2003 “anonymous” survey of PED tests that the NYT leaked. But there’s an open question on how reliable that report is. It’s never been confirmed. It was the same one that David Ortiz was on. He had zero issues getting elected. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2023, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-show-replays-of-disgraced-players/995146/17 "2023-12-29T20:10:44Z")
Ortiz had a lot more going against him than just to 2003 survey, making his induction stranger. It pays to be likable. ---
**Author:** ![mixdenny](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mixdenny/32/2962_2.png) [@mixdenny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mixdenny)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-show-replays-of-disgraced-players/995146/18 "2023-12-30T17:26:29Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Sosa has never admitted to use nor did he ever fail a PED test. He was suspended for a corked bat, which seems like an isolated incident after they scanned some 75 of his bats in the HOF, Wait, a guy I never heard of has seventy fucking five bats in the Hall of Fame? How many bats do they have in total? Can I have a Ted Williams bat? ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-show-replays-of-disgraced-players/995146/19 "2023-12-30T19:42:44Z")
> [@mixdenny](#): > > Wait, a guy I never heard of has seventy fucking five bats in the Hall of Fame? He’s the only person in major league history to have 3 seasons where he hit more than 60 homer runs. If you are a baseball fan, you should know of his name. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2023, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-show-replays-of-disgraced-players/995146/20 "2023-12-30T21:22:46Z")
> [@mixdenny](#): > > Wait, a guy I never heard of has seventy fucking five bats in the Hall of Fame? No. I misquoted the report. They X-rayed 76 of his bats following the corked bat incident and none were found to have cork. They also x-rayed an additional 5 bats he’d given to the HOF at that point, all were clear. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-show-replays-of-disgraced-players/995146.md?page=2)