# DO they still perform lobotomies in these countries? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [August 20, 2003, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-still-perform-lobotomies-in-these-countries/196510 "2003-08-20T19:44:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![luvtinayothers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@luvtinayothers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/luvtinayothers)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2003, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-still-perform-lobotomies-in-these-countries/196510/1 "2003-08-20T19:44:24Z")
I read that lobotomies are still being performed in Japan, Australia, Sweden and India. Is this discredited form of psychosurgery really being practiced in such progressive countries? ---
**Author:** ![Iteki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/eada6e/32.png) [@Iteki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iteki)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2003, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-still-perform-lobotomies-in-these-countries/196510/2 "2003-08-21T23:24:02Z")
What is referred to as “modern lobotomy” is performed about 7 times a year in Sweden at the request of patients who have been unable to benefit from any other available treatments. From the articles I looked at it seemed to be mainly people with really extreme OCD behaviour. The difference in the “modern” variant is that it is the severing of specific nerve connections rather than the complete severence of a lobe. However about 4,500 people were lobotomised in Sweden between the mid-40s and mid-60s, many in really dodgey circumstances that have come to light recently in investigations. Could that be what was referred to in the article you read? ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2003, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-still-perform-lobotomies-in-these-countries/196510/3 "2003-08-21T23:26:56Z")
The sort of lobotomy Iteki refers to is also performed in the US for people with extreme OCD that is not responsive to medication. It is never performed against the patient’s will. ---
**Author:** ![Wiwaxia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Wiwaxia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wiwaxia)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-still-perform-lobotomies-in-these-countries/196510/4 "2003-08-22T02:11:50Z")
The method used in Sweden, which Iteki refers to, is called capsulotomy, and it is misleading to conceptualise it as “modern lobotomy” since it bears no resemblance to the old frontal lobotomy that is well known among the public. Capsulotomy is cutting off a tract (a nerve fibre bundle) in a small structure in the brain called Interna capsula. Formerly it was done by knife or laser, but now it is done by interrupting the circuitry electronically, which also means it is reversible in case the patient does not benefit from the treatment, or has unwanted side effect. The criteria the patient must fulfill to be considered for capsulotomy includes having failed improvement with behavioural therapy pharmacotherapy, and a history of \>5 years of psychiatric care for OCD. About once a year, some tabloid press reporter will ring the hospital and ask “is it true that you still perform lobotomy?”… ---
**Author:** ![luvtinayothers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@luvtinayothers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/luvtinayothers)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2003, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-they-still-perform-lobotomies-in-these-countries/196510/5 "2003-08-22T22:23:52Z")
The article I read went into the gruesome and gory details of the old icepick lobotomies of the 30’s and 40’s and then ended with: \* “The original lobotomy operation is now rarely performed, if ever, although many countries still accept psychosurgery as a form of radical control of violent behavior (Japan, Australia, Sweden and India are among them)” \*