# Do truly scorned women have lesbian leniencies? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [September 21, 2005, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-truly-scorned-women-have-lesbian-leniencies/322737 "2005-09-21T17:03:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2005, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-truly-scorned-women-have-lesbian-leniencies/322737/21 "2005-09-21T22:52:57Z")
> [@astro](#): > > Suddenly… the music swells, and the band begins playing “It Had To Be You”. Silly, the band plays “Once I Had a Secret Love” (with Lea Delaria on vocal). ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-truly-scorned-women-have-lesbian-leniencies/322737/22 "2005-09-22T01:10:43Z")
I was for a long time a Scorned Man, but that didn’t give me Phantom tendencies: > **[Was Eric (Phantom of the Opera) impotent?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=336143)** > > Please settle a bet. 🙂 In the ALW version (movie and stage) of PotO, Eric has the following lines: That fate which condemns me to wallow in blood Has also denied me the joys of the flesh. This face, the infection which poisons our love. Now, is... ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-truly-scorned-women-have-lesbian-leniencies/322737/23 "2005-09-22T02:41:49Z")
I misread the thread title as, “Do truly scorned women have lesbian tentacles?” Mmmm, lesbian tentacles. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-truly-scorned-women-have-lesbian-leniencies/322737/24 "2005-09-22T04:44:05Z")
I’ve talked to lesbians who have been hurt by women who were all of a sudden trying to be gay because they were angry at men. Most of the women who do this are really just very selfish-pretending to be something they aren’t, and just hurting some totally innocent person in the bargain. You don’t just change your sexual orientation on a whim, like that. **redtail23** , what about “Lesbian until second semester?” ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-truly-scorned-women-have-lesbian-leniencies/322737/25 "2005-09-22T12:34:05Z")
> [@redtail23](#): > > I think he’s talking about the ‘political lesbians’\*, although I thought those went out with the 70s. This is exactly what I was thinking too. ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-truly-scorned-women-have-lesbian-leniencies/322737/26 "2005-09-22T15:26:06Z")
> [@Phlosphr](#): > > I don’t usually put up threads that train wreck like this…Jeez! It might have to do with your writing. None of us had any clue what you meant by “lesbian leniencies”. You were a college professor? I find that surprising, since all of my professors have been at very least competent writers, due to the demands of their work. ---
**Author:** ![ratatoskK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ratatoskk/32/2987_2.png) [@ratatoskK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ratatoskK)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-truly-scorned-women-have-lesbian-leniencies/322737/27 "2005-09-22T17:14:45Z")
Oh come on, it was just wordplay! ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-truly-scorned-women-have-lesbian-leniencies/322737/28 "2005-09-22T17:37:21Z")
I know - Come on now guys, I’ve been a member here for a long time, I don’t have to prove anything to anyone. My writing style has been chastised in the past. [See here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=209383)🙂 I’m not as think as you dumb I am. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![redtail23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3e96dc/32.png) [@redtail23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/redtail23)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-truly-scorned-women-have-lesbian-leniencies/322737/29 "2005-09-22T18:53:56Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > **redtail23** , what about “Lesbian until second semester?” I think those fall more under the ‘bi-curious’ category, don’t you? IME, they’re generally just doing that growing-up experimental thing - they don’t usually get into the whole “men are evil” bit. A lot of lesbians I knew (way back when I knew quite a few) really disliked self-proclaimed bi-women, because of the huge possibility that the real lesbian would get dumped as soon as the pretender found a guy. **Phlosphr** , I understood what you meant immediately upon reading your OP, if that makes you feel any better. The wording was a bit…different…but I got the drift. (Assuming I was correct in my understanding, that is.) ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-truly-scorned-women-have-lesbian-leniencies/322737/30 "2005-09-22T19:08:10Z")
> [@Phlosphr](#): > > I know - Come on now guys, I’ve been a member here for a long time, I don’t have to prove anything to anyone. My writing style has been chastised in the past. [See here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=209383)🙂 I’m not as think as you dumb I am. 🙂 I didn’t say you were dumb. This is not about proving anything, though. If you are not as able as most people to write well, it’s difficult to express yourself appropriately when dealing with a delicate topic - like, say, possible links between feminism and sexual orientation. It takes a light touch to write about tense issues without being inadvertently offensive. Your writing - which has problems that go far beyond spelling and punctuation - was probably no help in discussing this topic. I’m really not trying to be insulting here, but I recommend you take a closer look at your posts in the future, especially on sensitive topics. For what it’s worth, I didn’t understand “lesbian leniencies” to mean “lesbian sympathies” at all. I figured you’d somehow subconsciously mixed “leanings” and “tendencies”. It’s mind-boggling to me that you could have been a college professor and not known what the word “leniency” actually means. It’s a truly bizarre malapropism. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-truly-scorned-women-have-lesbian-leniencies/322737/31 "2005-09-22T19:20:16Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > Ok, I’ll buy that if your psyche is so damaged you may only trust women, but I don’t see that as leading to having sex with them, too. There are two different issues at stake here. I can. I used to work at a teen homeless shelter in the Clark/Belmont area of Chicago, and we had a couple of runaway boys come in that had been on the streets in the big city, and ended up being taken in by gay men (sometimes with honest motives, sometimes not) and the kid ended up sexually involved with the person. Now in some of those cases, the kid may already have been bi, or in denial, or on some in-between place on the Kinsey scale, or just consciously “experimenting.” But I think it’s very plausible to think that someone who is emotionally fragile/damaged/confused, and onlys trust one gender or (perhaps more powerfully) one _person_ could wind up being sexually involved, and even ending up identifying themselves differently. ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2005, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-truly-scorned-women-have-lesbian-leniencies/322737/32 "2005-09-22T19:42:16Z")
I understand you were not implying anything **Excalibre**. I have to watch how I put what I say, especially when I am trying to type quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2005, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-truly-scorned-women-have-lesbian-leniencies/322737/33 "2005-09-23T07:02:01Z")
> [@](#): > > **Phlosphr** : What the statement means is based on my own observation of the types of women I describe in my post, non are lesbian, but nearly all act in a manner suggesting such. Would you describe the actions of these women that you observed that suggested a Lesbian manner? > [@](#): > > **Slithy Tove** : …pairs of tweed-clad female couples appeared in public in numbers never seen previously… Maybe wearing tweed is one of the giveaways. > [@](#): > > **eleanorigby** : You were a college prof? Not of English, I hope. > [@](#): > > **Excalibre** : Your writing - which has problems that go far beyond spelling and punctuation - was probably no help in discussing this topic. I’m really not trying to be insulting here, but I recommend you take a closer look at your posts in the future, especially on sensitive topics. **Phlosphr** has mentioned a number of times that he has his doctorate in _psychology_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-truly-scorned-women-have-lesbian-leniencies/322737.md?page=1)