# Do Vegans eat honey? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [May 25, 2001, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-vegans-eat-honey/66489 "2001-05-25T15:21:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Morrison\_s\_Lament](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Morrison\_s\_Lament](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morrison_s_Lament)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2001, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-vegans-eat-honey/66489/21 "2001-05-27T06:26:15Z")
I knew it! šŸ˜ƒ Now, who played the fruitarian/vegan? I could swear it was either Emma or someone that looks 99% like her. ā€” G. Raven ---
**Author:** ![Dave\_Plankton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Dave\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2001, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-vegans-eat-honey/66489/22 "2001-05-27T09:23:12Z")
Do these people write on paper, or clay slabs perhaps? What clothes do they wear? It cant be cotton. Wool? I doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![GilaB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8e7dd6/32.png) [@GilaB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GilaB)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2001, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-vegans-eat-honey/66489/23 "2001-05-27T17:12:23Z")
One hundred percent polyester, my friend. ---
**Author:** ![urban1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d07c76/32.png) [@urban1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/urban1)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2001, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-vegans-eat-honey/66489/24 "2001-05-27T19:49:26Z")
I havenā€™t read much else about the Breatharians but it doesnā€™t surprise me at all to find that they are associated with Boulder. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2001, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-vegans-eat-honey/66489/25 "2001-05-28T02:00:57Z")
When I was in Colorado I heard that the breatharian movement was started by a guy named Wiley. His talent was discovered when the cops picked up him for aggravated nonpayment of parking tickets or something like that. They put him behind bars. I think it was over a long weekend so he couldnā€™t get a bail bondsman, and when they noticed, hey itā€™s been 3 days and this guy hasnā€™t eaten a single bite, they asked him why not. Then he out with it. Heā€™s a ā€œbreatharianā€ and so a new word entered the English vocabulary. I glanced at his book once. I didnā€™t get exactly how youā€™re supposed to thrive with no food at all. But the funny part was recipes for food to eat while youā€™re on the way to perfecting your breatharianism. One was called ā€œRice ā€˜nā€™ Ice Cream.ā€ Recipe: Take a bowl of rice and add a scoop of ice cream. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![JamesCarroll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@JamesCarroll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JamesCarroll)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2001, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-vegans-eat-honey/66489/26 "2001-05-28T05:35:03Z")
I would normally write something really witty and biting at this point, but after eating a 48 oz steak (didnā€™t even touch the salad or potato) Iā€™m ready for bed. ---
**Author:** ![Cerowyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/82dd89/32.png) [@Cerowyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerowyn)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2001, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-vegans-eat-honey/66489/27 "2001-05-28T06:37:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Morrisonā€™s Lament \* > **Now, who played the fruitarian/vegan? I could swear it was either Emma or someone that looks 99% like her.** Youā€™re rightā€¦ sort of. It was [Emma Bernard](http://us.imdb.com/Credits?0125439), not Emma Thompson. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2001, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-vegans-eat-honey/66489/28 "2001-05-28T12:36:36Z")
I heard a vegan on a radio talk show, and he stated that vegans do not eat honey, cause itā€™s made for bees, not people. I couldnā€™t follow his logic, but Iā€™m only a vegetarian. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2001, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-vegans-eat-honey/66489/29 "2001-05-28T21:06:17Z")
Still hoping that ā€œmeli-veganā€ is not a contradiction in terms . . . 'cause Iā€™m one. ---
**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2001, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-vegans-eat-honey/66489/30 "2001-05-29T00:01:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by urban1 \* > \*\*I havenā€™t read much else about the Breatharians but it doesnā€™t surprise me at all to find that they are associated with Boulder. > > \*\* apparently everyone has a web siteā€¦ [http://www.breatharian.com/](http://www.breatharian.com/) ---
**Author:** ![NeutronJack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/neutronjack/32/4134_2.png) [@NeutronJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NeutronJack)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2001, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-vegans-eat-honey/66489/31 "2001-05-29T03:07:04Z")
**There are no ā€œbreathariansā€. None.** Some lunatic _claimed_ he was. Thatā€™s all. Now, that same moron is trying to make money off of it. Cā€™mon, people, show a little skepticism here! Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. This is somebody claiming to live on NO FOOD, and yā€™all just accept this? šŸ˜• ---
**Author:** ![dqa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dqa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dqa)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2001, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-vegans-eat-honey/66489/32 "2001-05-29T04:05:43Z")
Prozac, **MrNeutron**? Would anyone else like any? > [@](#): > > _from the website_ > **I came to the 3-day ā€œbreatharianā€ seminar in Hawaii, but without the $300 fee to attend. Wiley asked me: ā€œIf you canā€™t find $300, then how do you expect to find God?ā€ Within 15 minutes, I had the $300.** Also mentioned at the website: > [@](#): > > One of the most famous, and most well-documented case of a breatharian, was Terese Neumann, a German nun, who did not eat anything at all for 35 years, between 1922 and 1957. There are at least seven books about her life. Yeah, and L. Ron Hubbard wrote at least seven books about his life. In a web search she turned up mostly in passing, and mostly in pro-Breatharian propaganda. I stand beside MrNeutron in finding this a bit difficult to swallow, but what is the story behind this nun? Was the story popularized by her order? ---
**Author:** ![Zarathustra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/898d66/32.png) [@Zarathustra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zarathustra)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2001, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-vegans-eat-honey/66489/33 "2001-05-29T05:59:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mangetout \* > \*\*I saw a group of folks on TV once who wouldnā€™t eat seeds or fruit as this would interfere with the reproductive cycle of plants; all they would eat was plant material that could be harvested without killing the plant (so basically leaves). > They were _ **very** _ thin. \*\* I thought that plants had evolved big juicy fruit appendages because they ā€œwantā€ their seeds to be eaten. That way, the seeds are carried far and wide by animals and pooped out in new territories where the plantā€™s offspring can flourish. These peopleā€™s beliefs seem not only crazy, but both ignorant and crazy. Why do these people believe that weā€™re supposed to be the only animal species that _doesnā€™t_ kill other living things for its energy needs? ---
**Author:** ![screech-owl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@screech-owl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/screech-owl)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2001, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-vegans-eat-honey/66489/34 "2001-05-29T10:26:21Z")
**ā€¦The conversation turns to Emmaā€™s eating habits, when she claims she cannot eat the carrots because they have been brutally murderedā€¦** [/QUOTE] And no one has mentioned ā€œCarrot Juice is Murderā€ by the Arrogant Worms? _Iā€™ve heard the screams of the vegetables (scream scream scream) Watching their skins being peeled (Having their insides revealed) Grated and steamed with no mercy (burning off calories) How do you think that feels (bet it hurts really bad) Carrot Juice constitutes murder (and thatā€™s a real crime) Greenhouses prisons for slaves (let my vegetables grow) Itā€™s time to stop all this gardening (itā€™s as dirty as hell) Letā€™s call a spade a spade (is a spade is a spadeā€¦)_ ---
**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2001, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-vegans-eat-honey/66489/35 "2001-05-29T10:52:15Z")
Iā€™ve heard that harvesting honey usually results in the deaths of at least a few bees. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2001, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-vegans-eat-honey/66489/36 "2001-05-29T11:07:30Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Badtz Maru:_ > **Iā€™ve heard that harvesting honey usually results in the deaths of at least a few bees.** I suspect that this is almost inevitable, as removal and replacement of the frames is bound to crush a few unfortunate insects that get in the way of the batten that supports the frame. I suppose that it would be possible to design a hive that makes it easier to remove the honey with considerably _less_ risk of killing the occasional bee, but you might tread on one while walking towards the hive, so where do you draw the line. Anyway, my understanding is that Vegans donā€™t use **any** animal products, regardless of whether they cause death/suffering or not. (Please donā€™t think Iā€™m trying to pick fault with anyone here, regardless of what they do or donā€™t eat) ā€¦Anyway, do these breatharians drink soup or milk or something then? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2001, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-vegans-eat-honey/66489/37 "2001-05-29T11:19:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Zarathustra:\ ***I thought that plants had evolved big juicy fruit appendages because they ā€œwantā€ their seeds to be eaten. That way, the seeds are carried far and wide by animals and pooped out in new territories where the plantā€™s offspring can flourish. These peopleā€™s beliefs seem not only crazy, but both ignorant and crazy.** I think the idea was more along the lines of _ā€˜how can a wheat seed fulfil itā€™s natural purpose if we grind it into flour?ā€™_ It could, of course, be argued that the wheat plantā€™s _purpose_ is to deliberately produce nutritious seeds as part of a strategy to make sure that mankind will never let the species die out (not my idea, you understand). ---
**Author:** ![Dragwyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dragwyr/32/2855_2.png) [@Dragwyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragwyr)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2001, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-vegans-eat-honey/66489/38 "2001-05-29T14:10:37Z")
More about breatharians at the Skeptics Dictionary: [http://www.skepdic.com/inedia.html](http://www.skepdic.com/inedia.html) ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2001, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-vegans-eat-honey/66489/39 "2001-05-29T14:40:10Z")
I visited the Bretharians [website](http://www.breatharian.com/homep.html) and found that you can join them at a weekend seminar: > [@](#): > > $425.00 includes the seminar, a single occupancy hotel room, meals and full use of the Sierra Hot Springā€™s vast property and healing pools. **MEALS???** Consisting of what exactly? ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2001, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-vegans-eat-honey/66489/40 "2001-05-29T14:56:40Z")
_This is necessary. This is necessary. Life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on_ The song opens with a comparison of harvest day to the holocaust. ā€œThese are the cries of the carrots.ā€ He was being sarcastic, Iā€™m sure, but perhaps he had heard of some of these folks as well. I knew a vegan once (heā€™s come around to being omnivorous again). He lived of Soft Batch cookies and yoohoo (I think) for a long time. However, I would think that honey is not the best thing in the world since the bees must be gassed and all to obtain it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-vegans-eat-honey/66489.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-vegans-eat-honey/66489.md?page=3)