# Do we cut women more slack than men? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 3, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-we-cut-women-more-slack-than-men/541802 "2010-06-03T17:36:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-we-cut-women-more-slack-than-men/541802/81 "2010-06-07T17:14:02Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > I mean, does having a penis mean someone should be able to change a tire? Obviously not. However, I would ask in a similar vein: “Does being able to change a tire mean someone should assist anyone with a flat?” I think that anyone who drives a car should be able to deal with common problems that arise. Note that “deal with” could mean calling AAA, calling a tow truck, changing the tire yourself, or batting your eyes at a guy in hopes that he will do it. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-we-cut-women-more-slack-than-men/541802/82 "2010-06-07T18:20:52Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > \ > > Funnily enough, a woman who wants to go topless to protest indecency laws can typically get away with it, but if she chooses to go topless just for the fuck of it she’ll be put in jail. \ Canada noted this inequality and changed the laws so that it is not against the law for women to be topless in public here. Few women avail themselves of this law (or lack of law), but we could if we wanted to. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-we-cut-women-more-slack-than-men/541802/83 "2010-06-07T19:04:43Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > In fact, all the male posters here who responded rather reflexively and without qualification that “of course we cut women more slack” and listed examples ( **TFD** , **Der Trihs** , etc.) seem to have just overlooked comparable ways in which we cut men more slack. No, I just think that women are cut far more slack in far more ways than men. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-we-cut-women-more-slack-than-men/541802/84 "2010-06-07T19:28:28Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Canada noted this inequality and changed the laws so that it is not against the law for women to be topless in public here. Few women avail themselves of this law (or lack of law), but we could if we wanted to. 🙂 I love Canada more and more every day I spend on the Dope. ---
**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-we-cut-women-more-slack-than-men/541802/85 "2010-06-07T19:43:25Z")
> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#): > > [Oil](http://vastperformance.com/shop/images/oil_cap_web.JPG)cap. [Plastic](http://www.prcracing.com/media_gallery/images/radiator_cap.jpg). Can remove by hand. It also tends to have that oil can symbol on it. > > [Radiator](http://advanced-autosports.com/images/products/radiator_cap_L.jpg)cap. [Metal](http://www.prcracing.com/media_gallery/images/radiator_cap.jpg). If you’ve been driving, don’t open with your bare hand. > > [This](http://www.ehow.co.uk/video_2326858_check-engine-oil-level.html)should help. If you’ve been driving, don’t open the radiator cap PERIOD. Not only is the cap itself hot, but the contents are HOT (like HOT OH SHIT THAT’S HOT GET ME TO A HOSPITAL kind of hot) and under pressure. Picture a full soda bottle you have just shaken, and how easy it is to control the spray as it comes out. Your radiator is under a good deal more pressure, and more likely to send you to the hospital. We now return you to your male/female comparison thread, but I felt this particular danger needed to be avoided. Your owner’s manual would tell you this as well, but few people ever read the owner’s manual. ---
**Author:** ![Lunchy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Lunchy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lunchy)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-we-cut-women-more-slack-than-men/541802/86 "2010-06-07T19:53:24Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > Where to put the oil: In the thing with the picture of the oil can. > Where to put the washer fluid: In the thing with the picture of the wipers. > Where to put radiator fluid or coolant: Where it says “radiator fluid” or “coolant”. > > How to change a tire: > > 1. Take the bolts off. > 2. Jack the car up. > 3. Remove tire, put on donut. > 4. Put bolts partially on. > 5. Take jack down. > 6. Tighten bolts. > You’re welcome. 1. Slightly loosen bolts. 2. Jack tire off the ground. 3. Remove bolts, replace tire. 4. Slightly tighten all bolts. 5. Let tire down. 6. Gradually tighten bolts in a star pattern till fully tightened. 7. Never use donut tires on pos trac axles. ---
**Author:** ![Kenyth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c68b51/32.png) [@Kenyth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenyth)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-we-cut-women-more-slack-than-men/541802/87 "2010-06-07T20:07:54Z")
> [@Sateryn76](#): > > 1. Yes, being “tough” and getting into fights is considered acceptable for a man. But usually only in certain cultures that are on the lower end of the economic ladder. And in that culture, the women are often no strangers to fighting, either. > > 2. I see nothing wrong with this - men with children shouldn’t go out to bars? 😕 > > 3. I’m no fan of husbands who don’t split child chores 50/50, but there have been studies that show that men become afraid to pitch in when the mom demands everything be done “her way” - they’re afraid of screwing up and being nagged at/yelled at by the mom, so they don’t do anything > > 4. Again, I think a lot of this is perception-based. Certainly, any idiot could clean a bathroom, but if it’s not done “right” (i.e. the way the wife does it) then they get yelled at. Also, in many relationships (but not all or even most), men are expected to help with the household chores, but strangely enough the women don’t want to get involved in “men’s work”. The definition of “men’s work” is anything that is dirty, sweaty, physical, and generally a PITA. “Shared house work” becomes cherry picking jobs. This is just an example on how hard it is to actually implement egalitarian responsibility on people with stereotypes/gender roles. I also agree with the micromanagement sentiment. My view on the matter is that you can have something done just the way you like it, when you like it, and how you like it, or you can ask me to do it. This sentiment has caused an argument or two BTW. ---
**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2010, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-we-cut-women-more-slack-than-men/541802/88 "2010-06-07T22:47:18Z")
> [@Lunchy](#): > > 1. Slightly loosen bolts. > 2. Jack tire off the ground. > 3. Remove bolts, replace tire. > 4. Slightly tighten all bolts. > 5. Let tire down. > 6. Gradually tighten bolts in a star pattern till fully tightened. > 7. Never use donut tires on pos trac axles. What’s with all this “he-man” effort all you need is a can of fix-a-flat.😉 ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-we-cut-women-more-slack-than-men/541802/89 "2010-06-08T00:48:03Z")
Yes considering the father has no say when a woman gets abortion. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-we-cut-women-more-slack-than-men/541802/90 "2010-06-08T01:04:53Z")
> [@Curtis LeMay](#): > > Yes considering the father has no say when a woman gets abortion. See post #79. As I noted there, a woman’s right to choose to abort a pregnancy that a man is partially responsible for is no more unfair or “privileged” than a man’s right not to be liable for the medical expenses of a woman’s pregnancy and childbirth that he is partially responsible for. These differences exist not as a matter of “cutting women more slack” or “cutting men more slack”, but rather as a natural consequence of the fact that pregnancy and childbirth take place in a woman’s body rather than in a man’s. If men want to be the ones in control over the issue of whether or not to choose an abortion, then it’s up to men to go get pregnant. People who can’t get pregnant are not being unfairly discriminated against just because people who **can** get pregnant are the ones who get to decide whether or not to terminate their pregnancy. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-we-cut-women-more-slack-than-men/541802/91 "2010-06-08T01:57:34Z")
I can think of one, possibly quite trivial, area where women definitely get more slack than men, which is some kinds annoying but non-threatening behavior. For example, smokers know that there’s always some asshole who, upon seeing you smoking, will furiously wave her hands in front of her face to clear the air of the deadly fumes from your cigarette. And possibly say something annoying and insulting (last week, as I was having a smoke outside my office buiding, a woman did the hand-waving thing and said “good luck with the chemo”). And in bars, as closing time approaches, those women who are obnoxious drunks (who exist in abut the same numbers as men) will engage in obnoxious behavior more often than men. This is because men come to realize fairly early in life that if they behave like that, sooner or later (probably sooner), they will get called on it, and they will get their asses kicked. After they’ve learned this lesson the hard way, they usually stop acting in ways that will bring on a beating. Women usually do not have this experience, because men are generally reluctant to beat up women,\* and those women who act like that carry on merrily throughout their lives. Now, that being said, the women who act like this are a minuscule percentage of women as a whole, and, as I said above, it’s pretty unimportant anyway. - Yes, yes, I know, domestic violence, etc, etc. That’s not what I’m talking about. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-we-cut-women-more-slack-than-men/541802.md?page=4)