Do we have a thread for SlackerInc yet? Maybe we should

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In his thread about how the democrats should have rolled over and let republicans pass a restrictive abortion bill that’s both redundant (because any protections it offers for babies born despite an attempted abortion are already covered by the 2002 act) and harmful (because it would prevent doctors from making the medical decision to provide comfort care instead of futile and painful attempts at resuscitation in lost cause cases, even ones unrelated to abortion, under pain of criminal penalty with no exception for doctor judgement) SlackerInc dropped the following “gem” in response to having the above explained to him:

@SlackerInc

Maybe you and the others arguing with me in this thread can sort out whether this law would be completely redundant (and thus, obviously, harmless) or “cause real harm”, and get back to me. :rolleyes:

You see, SlackerInc thinks the democrats’ stance on the issue is born out of a desire to win over radical feminist pro-abortionists or something, rather than an actual moral stance designed to prevent pain and suffering for everyone involved. According to him, this is just more evidence for America’s moderates of how murderous the democrats are. I decide to try and explain, but Kimstu does a much better job before I can:

@Kimstu

If you had done even the most cursory research on this bill yourself, you would have easily found out that it’s both: namely, any protections conferred by this bill are completely redundant because they already exist in other laws, while the harms caused by it could be quite damaging (in the rare cases that this bill would actually cover).

Here’s an explanation of the harmful aspects:
I think it’s kind of disgusting that you’re trying to treat this issue as a mere game of “political optics”, and are criticizing the Democrats who voted against this callous and malicious bill for not cynically going along with it to burden families and doctors with pointless suffering. ISTM it would be absolutely heartbreaking for the grieving mother of a non-viable fetus to know that her doctor is being forced to painfully resuscitate it after delivery only to let it painfully die, because otherwise the doctor could go to jail.

That’s the sort of real-life consequences you’re cavalierly ignoring when you whine that Democrats aren’t being sufficiently “politically savvy” in voting against this bill.

(Where’s the “spits contemptuously” smiley when we need one?)

SlackerInc ups the ante, necessitating this thread hop, because I can’t respond to this drivel in Great Debates.

@SlackerInc

I guess you better get ready to be even more contemptuous, because I am not moved by the scenario you lay out. In my view, it’s not up to the parents at that point. Moreover, I am virtually certain that most voters would agree with me. So just be contemptuous of the voters you want on your side, and see how that works out. :rolleyes:

ETA: Even if I did believe the consequences would be unfortunate for a small number of families, **they can get over it; **whereas in many cases the people who are harmed when Republicans repeatedly win presidential elections and control Congress might not be able to get over it.

Bolding mine.

What the actual FUCK is wrong with you? Telling people in that position to “get over it” – are you fucking kidding me? Do you have any idea what that is like, to lose a child like that? Because I’ll tell you what, I don’t. I can’t even IMAGINE how painful that would be. But I know enough not to be so fucking flippant about it. And you want to make it MORE painful for them just so that some imaginary moderates who are single issue abortion voters yet not already Republican won’t get the jimmies in a twist? You have no clue what you’re talking about. Thankfully, you’re wrong – most Americans don’t agree with you. Most Americans aren’t monsters. Most Americans want to let professional doctors who know what the hell they’re doing make the hard decisions they need to make sometimes.