Do whales or elephants have any special abilities due to their large brains

Better branding strategy, for starters.

Yeah, I NEVER eat dolphin steaks (unless I can persuade the waiter to call them Mahi Mahi steaks). :slight_smile:

I think the application of Occam’s Razor comes later in Senegoid’s post. The ‘complex behavior implying complex processes’ part is merely the set-up.

The application of Occam’s Razor comes when you say:
a) many of our complex stimulus/response behaviors seem similar;
b) we think we have cognition which we sort of understand;
c) it may be simpler to assume that they have a similar mental experience to ours, than to explain how they can have a completely alien mental experience which causes them to do things (kinda sorta) “just like us”

Do (blue blistering) barnacles have “better” sex lives because they have the largest penis-to-body-size ratio of any animal on the planet?

Wouldn’t you like to know?

Yes, but admit it, you probably wouldn’t order the assfish either.

Well, definitely not as sushi.

What wine pairs with that?

md 20/20.

I disagree; it was immediately after Senegoid described his understanding of Occam’s Razor, and he said must, not imply.

Let’s be clear the “you say” here is the generic “you”; I definitely don’t want anyone to associate me with such a sloppy argument…

Sure, in some ways dolphin behaviour reminds me of human behaviour; e.g. their playfulness.
And I of course assume that other humans have a similar inner experience to me because of their outward behaviour (OK, also because they claim to be conscious, but let’s put that to one side for now).
So I’m fine with saying that there are some grounds for supposing a dolphin is conscious in some sense.

I think going any further than that we run into problems. And we still haven’t really related this to big brains yet, since there are plenty of animals with a low brain to body weight ratio that nonetheless exhibit playful behaviour.

Looks like a font issue, combined with using spaces to align text :smack: :smack: :smack:

So not quite that easy to fix. You’d have to recreate the text using a font Wikipedia has, and move it into the right place.

Not hard, but a bit time consuming.

The problem with Occam’s Razor is that it ignores Bayes Theorem, which says that you should not only consider how well the explanation fits the data but also whether the explanation is common or rare. In this case, you might say that “This animal is thinking like a human” explains Dolphin behavior pretty well and it’s a simple explanation so you’ve applied OR but then you have to apply BT and say “The vast majority of animals don’t think like humans”, which makes it less likely that your simple explanation is correct. When you hear hoof beats, think horses not zebras. Unless you’re in Africa, in which case think zebras.