# Do women ever complain about being "Nice Girls"?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-women-ever-complain-about-being-nice-girls/489809>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 17, 2009, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-women-ever-complain-about-being-nice-girls/489809 "2009-03-17T22:39:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-women-ever-complain-about-being-nice-girls/489809/201 "2009-03-24T19:56:34Z")

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> [@PotLuck](#):
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> Thanks to everyone who’s shared their stories and opinions here; you have no idea how much you’ve helped this total stranger.

Now all we gotta do is contrive a way to get you and **pulehoopo** in the same room so y’all can practice being nice but not Nice.

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**Author:** ![PotLuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bbce88/32.png) [@PotLuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PotLuck)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-women-ever-complain-about-being-nice-girls/489809/202 "2009-03-24T20:37:03Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> Now all we gotta do is contrive a way to get you and **pulehoopo** in the same room so y’all can practice being nice but not Nice.

For me, job one is finding the happy medium between Nice (“one day he’ll notice how awesome I am and suddenly all the stuff that would make a relationship between us an utter trainwreck will just disappear on a cloud of butterfly wings!)” and bitter (“all men are manipulative pussy-hounds who’d rather have one-night-stands with interchangeable bimbos than fathom a long-term relationship with a mature, well-employed, property-owning woman like me”). I also need to keep reminding myself that there are worse things in the world than getting dumped or cheated on or lied to, and hiding from those possibilities by not dating only ensures that I’ll never be hurt _ **or** _ loved. There’s so much opportunity for happiness out there; getting bogged down in all the depressing what-ifs makes a lifetime of loneliness a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-women-ever-complain-about-being-nice-girls/489809/203 "2009-03-24T20:49:47Z")

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Heh, “Nice Girls”, are often really dull and not so nice as they think they are.

The idea that men are not attracted to smart girls is an adage of dumb ugly women who thought grades were an indicator of intelligence.

Basically all these stereotypes are baseless, whatever good qualities you have they are not the reason that you can’t get a date. You can’t get a date because of the bad qualities that you’re glossing over whatever they may be.

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**Author:** ![Polerius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d78d45/32.png) [@Polerius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polerius)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-women-ever-complain-about-being-nice-girls/489809/204 "2009-03-24T21:28:45Z")

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> [@PotLuck](#):
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> a long-term relationship with a mature, well-employed, property-owning woman like me

There are _many_ mature, well-employed, property-owning women, but not enough good looking & intellectually interesting ones, so the latter characteristics become the determining factor if a guy wants to be in a relationship with a woman.

The “mature, well-employed, property-owning” qualities are so far down the list of most men who are looking for a girlfriend that no one thinks about them.

It’s funny, but “mature, well-employed, property-owning” sounds to me like some important qualities a woman would look for in a man, and women may be making the mistake that men should also be using those qualities in judging a potential romantic interest.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-women-ever-complain-about-being-nice-girls/489809/205 "2009-03-24T23:02:23Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> Now all we gotta do is contrive a way to get you and **pulehoopo** in the same room so y’all can practice being nice but not Nice.

Hey, I got here first.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-women-ever-complain-about-being-nice-girls/489809/206 "2009-03-24T23:14:53Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Hey, I got here first.

Me too. Outta my way!

Oh, I’m sorry. Let me rephrase that.

Can I help you to the other room?

😃

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-women-ever-complain-about-being-nice-girls/489809/207 "2009-03-24T23:41:13Z")

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See, **Pot Luck** , you already have dopers fighting for you. If I’m interpreting the location fields right, some of them are varying degrees of “nearby”.

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