# Do you agree with my assessment of those who are against Affirmative Action? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [May 10, 2015, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-agree-with-my-assessment-of-those-who-are-against-affirmative-action/719706 "2015-05-10T15:48:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-agree-with-my-assessment-of-those-who-are-against-affirmative-action/719706/61 "2015-05-11T01:15:09Z")
Anyway,\*\* Robert163\*\*, what do you think of California’s Proposition 209? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-agree-with-my-assessment-of-those-who-are-against-affirmative-action/719706/62 "2015-05-11T01:24:43Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > So if you get rid of AA then women and minorities will be discriminated against. I think that only applies for certain minorities. If I’m not mistaken, Asian student admission to elite universities has or may be \*enhanced \*with the removal of AA. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-agree-with-my-assessment-of-those-who-are-against-affirmative-action/719706/63 "2015-05-11T01:29:22Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Anyway,\*\* Robert163\*\*, what do you think of California’s Proposition 209? I don’t think they should get rid of AA but they should reform it so that students are matched to a school they can function well at. Right now I am reading the article linked a couple posts above and it is pretty interesting. Post 55. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-agree-with-my-assessment-of-those-who-are-against-affirmative-action/719706/64 "2015-05-11T02:19:52Z")
OK, I have another question, then: The NBA and NFL are two sports leagues that are majority African-American. There are very few Asian players in either league (Jeremy Lin is a notable exception.) Should these sports leagues put in a mandatory requirement of having a certain number of Asian players in the leagues? Also, the white players in those two sports leagues are also underrepresented in the sense that they comprise a much smaller percentage of those leagues, than white people comprise as a percentage of the U.S. population as a whole. Should there be a minimum number of white players as well? ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-agree-with-my-assessment-of-those-who-are-against-affirmative-action/719706/65 "2015-05-11T02:22:07Z")
I hate it when people misuse the word “racist” when what they really mean is “I’m incapable of forming a coherent argument, so I’ll resort to name-calling”. It cheapens what should be a pretty horrible word. 20 years ago, someone was called “racist”, it meant something. Nowdays, it just means “I can’t defend my point of view” and people shrug. The word _should_ have a lot more weight and power. It’s a shame it’s been diluted. Because real, actual racism still exists. ---
**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-agree-with-my-assessment-of-those-who-are-against-affirmative-action/719706/66 "2015-05-11T02:50:04Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > I don’t think they should get rid of AA but they should reform it so that students are matched to a school they can function well at. Right now I am reading the article linked a couple posts above and it is pretty interesting. Post 55. The way to do that is to match somebody based on their abilities, not on their race. If minorities are disproportionately lacking those abilities, the solution is to correct the K-12 system, not add a crutch to the university system. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-agree-with-my-assessment-of-those-who-are-against-affirmative-action/719706/67 "2015-05-11T03:07:04Z")
> [@yellowjacketcoder](#): > > The way to do that is to match somebody based on their abilities, not on their race. If minorities are disproportionately lacking those abilities, the solution is to correct the K-12 system, not add a crutch to the university system. Well, I’m not opposed to taking other steps in other areas to correct the overall situation. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-agree-with-my-assessment-of-those-who-are-against-affirmative-action/719706/68 "2015-05-11T17:59:37Z")
Without even reading the OP, I can unequivically state that, no, I do not agree with your assessment. Any “assessment” of a large group of people is, ipso facto, invalid on the individual level. In this case, there are any number of reasons a person may support or oppose affirmative action, and one assessment will not cover them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-agree-with-my-assessment-of-those-who-are-against-affirmative-action/719706.md?page=3)