# Do you believe in demons and is pornography sinful? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 22, 2025, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-in-demons-and-is-pornography-sinful/1021184 "2025-07-22T16:27:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-in-demons-and-is-pornography-sinful/1021184/544 "2025-10-24T20:08:27Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > This is not putting words in the mouth of Jesus It is. Check the cites made before and others: [Addition to the Gospel of John - Logos Community](https://community.logos.com/discussion/220044/addition-to-the-gospel-of-john/p1#:~:text=Helmut%20Koester:%20A%20prominent%20New,beloved%20disciple%20and%20Peter%27s%20denial). > **[John 21 is Probably Not Original to the Gospel](https://jesustweezers.home.blog/2019/01/04/john-21-is-probably-not-original-to-the-gospel/)** > > John 21 is probably not original to the fourth gospel. It is likely an addition to a text that initially ended at John 20:31. In this post, I’d like to highlight the significant reasons for w… ---
**Author:** ![P-man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/p-man/32/3606_2.png) [@P-man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/P-man)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2025, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-in-demons-and-is-pornography-sinful/1021184/545 "2025-10-25T00:05:25Z")
And it would no doubt draw eye rolls in any mainline Protestant seminary in the country. I think the term biblical scholars use is “proof texting”. ---
**Author:** ![a\_dudes\_thought\_s](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@a\_dudes\_thought\_s](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a_dudes_thought_s)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2025, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-in-demons-and-is-pornography-sinful/1021184/546 "2025-11-03T15:31:22Z")
What’s an actual biblical scholar if I may ask? Also do all biblical scholars agree on every thing? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2025, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-in-demons-and-is-pornography-sinful/1021184/547 "2025-11-03T16:08:27Z")
An actual biblical scholar is someone who has done advanced studies on the Bible, having graduated from seminary or graduate school, and does not dismiss some evidence and push other evidence based on what they already believe. And no, I have not said that all biblical scholars agree on every thing. In fact, I don’t recall _anyone_ ever saying such a silly thing. ---
**Author:** ![a\_dudes\_thought\_s](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@a\_dudes\_thought\_s](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a_dudes_thought_s)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2025, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-in-demons-and-is-pornography-sinful/1021184/548 "2025-11-03T16:29:19Z")
I was reading up on this concept of body Thetans and it just seems to be some what similar to the concept of a demon. In fact it seems very similar to Swedenborg’s idea of demons and angels having originated from human beings which is something that mainstream Christianity does not believe. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2025, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-in-demons-and-is-pornography-sinful/1021184/549 "2025-11-03T16:38:45Z")
I don’t think referencing Scientology to support your ideas is a plus. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2025, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-in-demons-and-is-pornography-sinful/1021184/550 "2025-11-03T16:41:53Z")
> [@a\_dudes\_thought\_s](#): > > I was reading up on this concept of body Thetans and it just seems to be some what similar to the concept of a demon. Yes, in that they’re both made up bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2025, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-in-demons-and-is-pornography-sinful/1021184/551 "2025-11-03T16:45:04Z")
It is actually harder to find scholars that agree with Swedenborg. ---
**Author:** ![a\_dudes\_thought\_s](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@a\_dudes\_thought\_s](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a_dudes_thought_s)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-in-demons-and-is-pornography-sinful/1021184/552 "2025-12-10T16:09:37Z")
Sounds interesting I will check this out. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-in-demons-and-is-pornography-sinful/1021184/553 "2025-12-10T16:15:39Z")
_Do you believe in demons in a young girl’s heart? How exorcism can free her, whenever they start And it’s demons, if she makes you feel groovy It makes you feel frightened like a Lon Chaney movie Just add a little porn, and it’ll eat your soul But it’s like trying to tell Liberace 'bout rock and roll_ ---
**Author:** ![a\_dudes\_thought\_s](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/7ea924/32.png) [@a\_dudes\_thought\_s](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a_dudes_thought_s)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-in-demons-and-is-pornography-sinful/1021184/554 "2025-12-10T16:53:01Z")
Mainstream Christianity did not accept a number of his teachings. Some of the things he taught are very interesting to me and make a lot of sense. His teachings may not have the benefit of the backing of scholars, but that does not mean you can’t enjoy reading studying what he taught. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-in-demons-and-is-pornography-sinful/1021184/555 "2025-12-10T19:48:27Z")
Well, of course. But, paraphrasing Carl Sagan, many people enjoyed Bozo the Clown too. The reason why one should consult the current experts or scholars is to avoid situations where guys that got it wrong could lead one to get into implosive situations in life. It is similar to what John Oliver pointed out about the results of listening to grossly inexperienced and mistaken influencers of the past and the present. > It’s very disheartening and it’s scary. I think that there will be a massive exodus of competence right when you fire everyone who knows what they’re doing and only hire people who will say yes to the rich guy in charge. That’s not a recipe for good government; it’s a recipe for the Titan submersible. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-in-demons-and-is-pornography-sinful/1021184.md?page=27)