# Do you believe the Steele dossier? Do you think Trump got peed on? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 16, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-the-steele-dossier-do-you-think-trump-got-peed-on/812509 "2018-04-16T14:51:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![blood63](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@blood63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blood63)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-the-steele-dossier-do-you-think-trump-got-peed-on/812509/1 "2018-04-16T14:51:07Z")
I can imagine Donald Trump doing all kinds of slimy things. I would not put it past him that he would use prostitutes. The Steele dossier claims that either Trump got peed on by prostitutes or that they peed on a bed in his presence. I can’t believe that Trump is the type of guy who would allow women to pee on him but, I can’t really imagine that happening to anyone. Have you ever been peed on? What did you get out of it? If the prostitutes only peed on a bed in this presence, then I would say that was possible particularly if it was a set up and being filmed to use against him. What do you think? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-the-steele-dossier-do-you-think-trump-got-peed-on/812509/2 "2018-04-16T14:58:19Z")
Comey: “It’s possible. But I can’t be sure.” ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-the-steele-dossier-do-you-think-trump-got-peed-on/812509/3 "2018-04-16T15:00:14Z")
When the dossier first came to light I thought that accusation was highly improbable. Now, well, I think it’s likely. Maybe three chances in four. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-the-steele-dossier-do-you-think-trump-got-peed-on/812509/4 "2018-04-16T15:13:31Z")
There is very little that would surprise me to learn about Trump. To paraphrase the Great Jonathan Winters, _“If you told me he was the star of a real cheap horror movie, I’d believe it!”_ Peed on by Russian Hookers? Sure. Dresses as a Nazi during Bunga-Bunga parties? Why not? And worse… Float a theory. I’m gullible. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Tired\_and\_Cranky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@Tired\_and\_Cranky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tired_and_Cranky)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-the-steele-dossier-do-you-think-trump-got-peed-on/812509/5 "2018-04-16T15:19:11Z")
The Comey interview suggests that the pee play could have been between the hookers and that Trump may have watched from a distance. Trump is a germophobe. I doubt he let hookers pee on him but I believe his preoccupation with hookers, germs, and Obama would have made hookers peeing in the Presidential suite where Obama once stayed a pretty exciting and compelling thing for him to watch from a few feet away. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-the-steele-dossier-do-you-think-trump-got-peed-on/812509/6 "2018-04-16T15:21:36Z")
Yeah, I believe the allegation is that he watched hookers pee on each other. I have no idea if it’s true, but anything is possible with that piece of trash. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-the-steele-dossier-do-you-think-trump-got-peed-on/812509/7 "2018-04-16T15:21:43Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > When the dossier first came to light I thought that accusation was highly improbable. > > Now, well, I think it’s likely. Maybe three chances in four. Same here. Trump’s obsession with the issue and the nature of his denials make it appear much more likely there is actually something to it. I doubt that Trump is the kind of guy to want to be peed on himself, but I could see him standing by watching hookers pee on the bed. And that would allow him to say “That never happened,” without specifying exactly what didn’t happen. (Not that Trump would hesitate to blatantly lie in any case.) ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-the-steele-dossier-do-you-think-trump-got-peed-on/812509/8 "2018-04-16T15:25:01Z")
There is nothing that could be said about this weakling loser “president” that would surprise me. No matter how degraded, vile, ugly or twisted, I would believe that it’s all probably true. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-the-steele-dossier-do-you-think-trump-got-peed-on/812509/9 "2018-04-16T15:25:04Z")
Better to be pissed off than pissed on, I always say. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-the-steele-dossier-do-you-think-trump-got-peed-on/812509/10 "2018-04-16T16:24:06Z")
Put me down as another one who originally thought it to be unlikely and hyperbolic, and is now starting to give it (the story that he watched women pee on a bed) some credence based on reports of Trump’s reactions to stories of the tape existing. As “things that bother me about Trump” go it remains way, way down the list - I’m far more concerned about things he may have done that were criminal or facilitated criminality. But I’m not ruling out that it happened. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-the-steele-dossier-do-you-think-trump-got-peed-on/812509/11 "2018-04-16T16:36:12Z")
Germophobes don’t have casual sex with scores of women they know little about. I don’t believe that claim. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-the-steele-dossier-do-you-think-trump-got-peed-on/812509/12 "2018-04-16T16:40:02Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Germophobes don’t have casual sex with scores of women they know little about. I don’t believe that claim. But they have unprotected sex with porn stars?.. Or do you not believe that claim either? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-the-steele-dossier-do-you-think-trump-got-peed-on/812509/13 "2018-04-16T16:43:19Z")
There is no evidence so far that it is true, nor any that it is false, so far. It is thus unproven. Not exactly Schroedinger’s cat - more like Schroedinger’s cat’s litter box. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-the-steele-dossier-do-you-think-trump-got-peed-on/812509/14 "2018-04-16T16:43:42Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > But they have unprotected sex with porn stars?.. Or do you not believe that claim either? Maybe that is _why_ he is a germophobe. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-the-steele-dossier-do-you-think-trump-got-peed-on/812509/15 "2018-04-16T16:53:47Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > But they have unprotected sex with porn stars?.. Or do you not believe that claim either? I don’t believe germophobes have sex with porn stars. Do true germophobes have sex with anybody? Trump is not a germophobe. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-the-steele-dossier-do-you-think-trump-got-peed-on/812509/16 "2018-04-16T17:00:09Z")
I used to give it about a 50% chance of being true. Now I think it’s more like 80% likely to be true. I also think Trump’s germaphobia is vastly overestimated, for the same reason **Fear Itself** does. ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-the-steele-dossier-do-you-think-trump-got-peed-on/812509/17 "2018-04-16T17:08:31Z")
> [@blood63](#): > > I can imagine Donald Trump doing all kinds of slimy things. I would not put it past him that he would use prostitutes. The Steele dossier claims that either Trump got peed on by prostitutes or that they peed on a bed in his presence. > I can’t believe that Trump is the type of guy who would allow women to pee on him but, I can’t really imagine that happening to anyone. Have you ever been peed on? What did you get out of it? > If the prostitutes only peed on a bed in this presence, then I would say that was possible particularly if it was a set up and being filmed to use against him. > What do you think? a) In almost any other situation involving a major politician, this would be assumed to be a metaphorical question, along the same lines as “do you think he got fucked by the old guard in the party” or whatever. The times, they is a-changed, ain’t they? b) [Rule 34](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Rule%2034). [Specific cite](https://www.omorashi.org). Go get amazed. ETA: not safe for work c) No, I personally haven’t been, unless kittens and hamsters count. But lots of people apparently pay for golden showers. It’s a thing. It’s not even a particularly marginalized thing (compared to the balloon popping thing or the clowns thing or the lawn darts thing), although it’s not as mainstream as velcro cuffs and a flogger or paddle. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-the-steele-dossier-do-you-think-trump-got-peed-on/812509/18 "2018-04-16T17:13:05Z")
I…don’t want to know about the “lawn darts thing”. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-the-steele-dossier-do-you-think-trump-got-peed-on/812509/19 "2018-04-16T17:18:11Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > I don’t believe germophobes have sex with porn stars. Do true germophobes have sex with anybody? Trump is not a germophobe. Well, I’ve heard Trump claim he was a germophobe. So that’s clearly a lie. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2018, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-the-steele-dossier-do-you-think-trump-got-peed-on/812509/20 "2018-04-16T17:32:26Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Well, I’ve heard Trump claim he was a germophobe. So that’s clearly a lie. An excellent point, Sir. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-believe-the-steele-dossier-do-you-think-trump-got-peed-on/812509.md?page=2)