# Do You Consider Subway, McDonalds, Etc. As "Restaurants"? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 4, 2007, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-subway-mcdonalds-etc-as-restaurants/386668 "2007-01-04T08:06:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-subway-mcdonalds-etc-as-restaurants/386668/41 "2007-01-05T21:46:57Z")
[QUOTE=DSYoungEsq] And is a Carl’s Jr. a Type I or Type II if you order with a menu above the register, but sit down and have the food brought to you? [/QUOTE] That depends. What sort of containers does the ketchup come in? ---
**Author:** ![Cunctator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Cunctator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cunctator)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-subway-mcdonalds-etc-as-restaurants/386668/42 "2007-01-06T04:23:26Z")
[QUOTE=Musicat] How much table service? Complete? Order-to-cleanup? [/quote] Yes. Complete. > [@Musicat](#): > > We have a wonderful, homey, upscale establishment nearby called the “Bluefront Cafe”. Not cheap, not fast. You order at the counter, pay, pour your own coffee, sit down and eventually you get your food delivered by a waitperson. And unlike some cafeterias, you don’t bus your own table afterwards. > > I think it is a good compromise. I’m sure they save some time when they don’t have to come to the table for your order. If you have a question about some items, like sides or drinks, they can point to the glass case. Yet you can help yourself to coffee refills at any time. > > I think the management would be quite upset if you said they weren’t a restaurant. And I think it’s well named as the Bluefront **Café**. To me it’s exactly that - a café - not a restaurant. ---
**Author:** ![Waenara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@Waenara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waenara)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-subway-mcdonalds-etc-as-restaurants/386668/43 "2007-01-06T05:07:35Z")
[QUOTE=Cunctator] To me it’s exactly that - a café - not a restaurant. [/QUOTE] Personally, I would say a café is a _type_ of restaurant. All cafés are restaurants, but not all restaurants are cafés. I think I’d call a food-serving establishment a restaurant if it has a permanent structure with a kitchen and has tables and chairs to sit and eat. Thus, street vendors != restaurant. Various sub-types of restaurants would include fast-food, cafés, buffets and “normal” restaurants with table service. ---
**Author:** ![Critical\_Mass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@Critical\_Mass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical_Mass)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-subway-mcdonalds-etc-as-restaurants/386668/44 "2007-01-06T05:23:54Z")
[QUOTE=fluiddruid] [QUOTE=Sunspace] And possibly the late lamented Bonanza chain… [/QUOTE] Perhaps it’s a different chain, but we still have [Bonanza restaurants](http://www.ponderosasteakhouses.com/splash.htm) around here. I’ve not been to one. [/QUOTE] No shit! I thought Bonanza and Ponderosa chains died a long time ago. I loved going there when I was a kid. Looking at the linked site, I see that they’re huge. Internationally they seem to have a big presence in the middle east. Odd. There’s one in Saskatoon. Now I want to go to Saskatoon. That’s odd too. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2007, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-subway-mcdonalds-etc-as-restaurants/386668/45 "2007-01-06T12:19:38Z")
[QUOTE=Cunctator] And I think it’s well named as the Bluefront **Café**. To me it’s exactly that - a café - not a restaurant. [/QUOTE] You’re not from around here, are you? I detect a small accent. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-subway-mcdonalds-etc-as-restaurants/386668.md?page=2)