# Do you consider the POTUS Donald Trump as a loose cannon?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-the-potus-donald-trump-as-a-loose-cannon/820919>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 6, 2018, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-the-potus-donald-trump-as-a-loose-cannon/820919 "2018-09-06T23:58:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-the-potus-donald-trump-as-a-loose-cannon/820919/61 "2018-09-08T03:04:02Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> :dubious:
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> Whoosh? or do you actually think that a supreme being has cursed us with Trump?

I had a long response that I dumped. Yours is much better and more to the point.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-the-potus-donald-trump-as-a-loose-cannon/820919/62 "2018-09-08T03:08:01Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> :dubious:
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> Whoosh? or do you actually think that a supreme being has cursed us with Trump?

Are you not familiar with kanicbird, he of “rapists forge a soul bond with their victims” and “an [angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14480032&postcount=254) got me out of a dui”?

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-the-potus-donald-trump-as-a-loose-cannon/820919/63 "2018-09-08T03:16:43Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Are you not familiar with kanicbird, he of “rapists forge a soul bond with their victims” and “an [angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14480032&postcount=254) got me out of a dui”?

Sorry link for the soul tie thing:

[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11523241&postcount=26](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11523241&postcount=26)

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**Author:** ![ataraxy22](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ataraxy22/32/307_2.png) [@ataraxy22](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ataraxy22)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-the-potus-donald-trump-as-a-loose-cannon/820919/64 "2018-09-08T03:34:09Z")

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I wouldn’t projectile vomit on Trump if he were on fire, and that’s the nicest thing I can say about him.

As for his followers and supporters: They are rich targets for con-men and scammers as they are easily tricked, misled and defrauded.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-the-potus-donald-trump-as-a-loose-cannon/820919/65 "2018-09-08T03:53:49Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> :dubious:
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> Whoosh? or do you actually think that a supreme being has cursed us with Trump?

> [@enipla](#):
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> I had a long response that I dumped. Yours is much better and more to the point.

> [@raventhief](#):
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> Are you not familiar with kanicbird, he of “rapists forge a soul bond with their victims” and “an [angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14480032&postcount=254) got me out of a dui”?

He actually thinks that.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-the-potus-donald-trump-as-a-loose-cannon/820919/66 "2018-09-08T03:59:06Z")

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> [@Mr\_Quatro](#):
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> As for the poll questions I couldn’t possibly think otherwise than the fact that the media has stirred this up with an op-ed from an unknown insider.

Stirred it up? What, Fox wasn’t covering it before now?  
And the insider is not unknown to the Times. Call him a coward, call him a traitor, I don’t care. His morals are suspect by definition because he works for the turd. But what he says is clearly accurate.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-the-potus-donald-trump-as-a-loose-cannon/820919/67 "2018-09-08T04:20:54Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Stirred it up? What, Fox wasn’t covering it before now?  
> And the insider is not unknown to the Times. Call him a coward, call him a traitor, I don’t care. His morals are suspect by definition because he works for the turd. But what he says is clearly accurate.

Well, obviously, everyone thought Trump was the bees’ knees before this pesky op-ed.

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**Author:** ![blob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blob/32/489_2.png) [@blob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blob)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-the-potus-donald-trump-as-a-loose-cannon/820919/68 "2018-09-08T04:29:52Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Well, obviously, everyone thought Trump was the bees’ knees before this pesky op-ed.

Sure, it isn’t as if I thought he was off his head when he stated that his “president party” was the biggest ever, when hardly anyone turned up to it.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-the-potus-donald-trump-as-a-loose-cannon/820919/69 "2018-09-08T04:39:15Z")

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> [@blob](#):
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> Sure, it isn’t as if I thought he was off his head when he stated that his “president party” was the biggest ever, when hardly anyone turned up to it.

Of course you didn’t! Didn’t you see the memo, he’s the BEES’S KNEES and any other position is a result of being led around by the press (aka enemy of the people, duh).

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-the-potus-donald-trump-as-a-loose-cannon/820919/70 "2018-09-08T05:07:16Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Are you not familiar with kanicbird, he of “rapists forge a soul bond with their victims” and “an [angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14480032&postcount=254) got me out of a dui”?

> [@raventhief](#):
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> Sorry link for the soul tie thing:
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> [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11523241&postcount=26](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11523241&postcount=26)

That is terrible.

As to the religion question, we got ourselves into this Trump mess, and we need to get ourselves out. No need to bring divine tests into it.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-the-potus-donald-trump-as-a-loose-cannon/820919/71 "2018-09-08T05:14:45Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> That is terrible.
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> As to the religion question, we got ourselves into this Trump mess, and we need to get ourselves out. No need to bring divine tests into it.

Far worse is his [attitude](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11523498&postcount=34) toward those who are date raped. Not even they asked for it- they fucking forced the rapist to do it.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-the-potus-donald-trump-as-a-loose-cannon/820919/72 "2018-09-08T05:55:07Z")

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That’s some high grade nuttery right there.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-the-potus-donald-trump-as-a-loose-cannon/820919/73 "2018-09-08T06:13:41Z")

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Add me to the list of those who wish the OP to have carnal relations with himself. And his mother.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-the-potus-donald-trump-as-a-loose-cannon/820919/74 "2018-09-08T10:45:17Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Moving this to the Pit. Those poll choices poisoned the well from the get go.

I thought Polls weren’t allowed in BBQ Pit. Did OP find the back-door way to get around that?

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**Author:** ![blob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blob/32/489_2.png) [@blob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blob)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-the-potus-donald-trump-as-a-loose-cannon/820919/75 "2018-09-08T12:30:46Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> I thought Polls weren’t allowed in BBQ Pit. Did OP find the back-door way to get around that?

It was started somewhere else and moved to the Pit.

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**Author:** ![MarvinKitFox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ba0ec/32.png) [@MarvinKitFox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MarvinKitFox)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-the-potus-donald-trump-as-a-loose-cannon/820919/76 "2018-09-09T09:28:26Z")

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Do i consider Trump a loose cannon?  
Very much so.

Do I consider this poll as sensible?  
HELL NO!

Just what sort of idiot thought up those options for the poll?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-the-potus-donald-trump-as-a-loose-cannon/820919/77 "2018-09-09T12:00:20Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> I thought Polls weren’t allowed in BBQ Pit. Did OP find the back-door way to get around that?

Maybe by accident. Take a poll about a politically charged topic, and construct it with wording that poisons the well.

I don’t think I’d want the mods to get the idea that I had done something like that on purpose. Your sense of adventure might lead you to choose riskier paths, though.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-the-potus-donald-trump-as-a-loose-cannon/820919/78 "2018-09-09T13:00:51Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> It may be recreational for Trump but all indications are that it’s real work for his partners.

Real paid work.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-the-potus-donald-trump-as-a-loose-cannon/820919/79 "2018-09-09T13:14:31Z")

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> [@MarvinKitFox](#):
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> Just what sort of idiot thought up those options for the poll?

[This](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20764729&postcount=6) sort of idiot.

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**Author:** ![Mr\_Quatro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc8723/32.png) [@Mr\_Quatro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Quatro)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-consider-the-potus-donald-trump-as-a-loose-cannon/820919/80 "2018-09-11T14:15:36Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> [This](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20764729&postcount=6) sort of idiot.

Hello Pit,

So this is the bottom of the pile, uh? I see that I have may have caused a bit of ruffling of the feathers with this poll, specifically the poll questions, which I see nothing wrong with.

According to the media should have read according to what do you personally think about the subject heading of “Do you consider the POTUS Donald Trump as a loose cannon?” (of course the media is the only way most of us have to gain insight)

Like the answer of ‘No’ already had that wording of seed thought “No, I do not personally think that the president is a loose cannon”

The option of other thoughts about this subject could’ve been better, but the few that selected ‘other’ have failed to weigh in.

The thread was doomed so to speak due to the OP or his wording … at 74 I don’t have much hope of getting younger only wiser. I don’t like the Pit … I think most people don’t like the pit … I’m sorry Czarcasm I was offended at the curse words and didn’t understand the rules of the pit yet, amended in July 2018 to include the ‘F’ word.

There are also many references to my other threads just for fun they were posted … this is a rough place. Sort of weeds out the crazy people, uh?

I can take it … after serving in the USN submarine service for 7 years and making 5 patrols for (90) days each I can hack anything that comes my way. I don’t have much longer left in life, but it is my best guess that I should move on and find a friendlier place to dwell.

As for Donald Trump I think he is going to be a lot more careful about what he says in private from now on due to the revelations of the Woodard book and the insider that posted the op-ed on NY Times. Don’t y’all think it’s odd how close this NY Times op-ed was published so close to the Woodward books release? When was the op-ed written? When did the NT Times read the book? I’m not saying the NY Times did anything wrong, but sure is suspicious.

I well remember being concerned about President Obama’s last days in office when the Lord said quite clearly that He was still God when Nixon was president. I would think no matter what you think of me or of President Trump that fact will remain.

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