# Do you even need to be smart when you're this pretty?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-even-need-to-be-smart-when-youre-this-pretty/215549>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 27, 2003, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-even-need-to-be-smart-when-youre-this-pretty/215549 "2003-11-27T08:09:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![spogga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@spogga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spogga)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-even-need-to-be-smart-when-youre-this-pretty/215549/21 "2003-11-27T18:15:24Z")

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That’s actually very true PERIT. One of the barmen in my local is from Arizona or Arkansas or summat like that and to see the local wenches drooling and slobbering over his bloody accent [not to mention his tan and pearly whites and muscles and pigging infuriating always happy smiling face] really pisses us English rampant studs off.  
We wouldn’t mind but he must have been through half the unmarried ones [and a few married] and shows no sign of slowing down.

bastard

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**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-even-need-to-be-smart-when-youre-this-pretty/215549/22 "2003-11-27T18:20:57Z")

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Actually, she’s not doing the hoovering, she’s doing the Swiffering. As the commercials keep telling us, Swiffering is like nothing you’ve ever done before.

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**Author:** ![peritrochoid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@peritrochoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peritrochoid)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-even-need-to-be-smart-when-youre-this-pretty/215549/23 "2003-11-27T18:28:59Z")

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Well, **spogga** , if your barman has teeth, he probably didn’t come from Arkansas. 😉

Oops, did I say that out loud? I’ll be moving along now.

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**Author:** ![7\_up\_yours](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/7/919ad9/32.png) [@7\_up\_yours](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/7_up_yours)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-even-need-to-be-smart-when-youre-this-pretty/215549/24 "2003-11-27T20:00:37Z")

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Forget it… she’s taken!

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-even-need-to-be-smart-when-youre-this-pretty/215549/25 "2003-11-27T21:01:00Z")

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Good Lord, what fantastic legs she has!

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**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-even-need-to-be-smart-when-youre-this-pretty/215549/26 "2003-11-27T21:09:57Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by spogga \*  
> \*\*That’s actually very true PERIT. One of the barmen in my local is from Arizona or Arkansas or summat like that and to see the local wenches drooling and slobbering over his bloody accent [not to mention his tan and pearly whites and muscles and pigging infuriating always happy smiling face] really pisses us English rampant studs off.  
> We wouldn’t mind but he must have been through half the unmarried ones [and a few married] and shows no sign of slowing down.  
> bastard \*\*

Which actually flips the smart/pretty issue (what there was of it) right back around, doesn’t it?  
Never mind. Just idly stirring the pot.

[sub]Sympathies on the tooth extractions, **spogga**. I just had an old filling replaced and my face looks like chipmunk hoarding a watermelon.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-even-need-to-be-smart-when-youre-this-pretty/215549/27 "2003-11-27T21:25:05Z")

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> \*Originally posted by peritrochoid \*  
> \*\*Okay, she’s not drop-dead gorgeous, but if this is ‘average’ where you’re at, I think I’m gonna come live there. \*\*

‘Where you’re at’ is in the head, not the Atlas…

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**Author:** ![spogga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@spogga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spogga)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-even-need-to-be-smart-when-youre-this-pretty/215549/28 "2003-11-27T21:27:59Z")

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On the subject of accents it was surprising how many Americans thought I was an Aussie whilst holidaying in your fair land last year, fair but not as fair as Merrie England, gadzooks and a hey nonny nonny!

what?

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**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-even-need-to-be-smart-when-youre-this-pretty/215549/29 "2003-11-27T21:28:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lord Ashtar \*  
> \*\*Good Lord, what fantastic legs she has! \*\*

Both of them…

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**Author:** ![AngelicGemma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/439d5e/32.png) [@AngelicGemma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelicGemma)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2003, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-even-need-to-be-smart-when-youre-this-pretty/215549/30 "2003-11-27T21:42:47Z")

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Another vote for - nice legs.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-even-need-to-be-smart-when-youre-this-pretty/215549/31 "2003-11-28T00:01:57Z")

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Hmm, she has a good butt. Prominent butt = good, in my book.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-even-need-to-be-smart-when-youre-this-pretty/215549/32 "2003-11-28T00:29:09Z")

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You don’t have to be smart to be pretty, but it helps. On balance, I would say it is better to be pretty than to be smart – in the U.S. where we put quite a premium on looks and the economic competition isn’t quite so Darwinian as in the Third World.

But in any event, I would take lucky over smart or pretty, or pretty AND smart, any day.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-even-need-to-be-smart-when-youre-this-pretty/215549/33 "2003-11-28T00:36:27Z")

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I’d marry her and channel all my money into a brain transplant.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-even-need-to-be-smart-when-youre-this-pretty/215549/34 "2003-11-28T00:39:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Michael Ellis \*  
> \*\*I’d marry her and channel all my money into a brain transplant. \*\*

Hey, don’t be so hard on yourself. I think your current brain’s just fine. 😉

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**Author:** ![DougC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@DougC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DougC)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-even-need-to-be-smart-when-youre-this-pretty/215549/35 "2003-11-28T04:51:25Z")

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    - She isn’t that good-looking, it took a hairstylist and a makeup artist a couple hours at least. Then it took a wardrobe specialist to pick clothes and a pro photograpper to set up lighting and (probably) retouch the photo.

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- There used to be a website out there that had photos of TV and movie stars without makeup. Many of them were not that impressive-looking.  
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**Author:** ![spogga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ab097/32.png) [@spogga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spogga)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-even-need-to-be-smart-when-youre-this-pretty/215549/36 "2003-11-28T07:54:35Z")

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Funny you should say that \*\* DougC \*\* my brother has a business that specialises in colour photographic layouts for mail order cats/womens mags etc and I went to one of the shoots some years back.  
I kid you not some of those models when they arrived at the studio looked dog rough but after a few hours with the stylists/hairdressers/make up artists looked good enough to eat…yes well!

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-even-need-to-be-smart-when-youre-this-pretty/215549/37 "2003-11-28T08:03:04Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by CrazyCatLady \*  
> Actually, she’s not doing the hoovering, she’s doing the Swiffering. As the commercials keep telling us, Swiffering is like nothing you’ve ever done before.

I have no idea what she’s doing but she could wipe the floor with me . . .

And **NO** she doesn’t look even vaguely ridiculous simulating house cleaning in high heels and panties.

Bless 'em all.

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**Author:** ![Beech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@Beech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beech)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-even-need-to-be-smart-when-youre-this-pretty/215549/38 "2003-11-28T09:09:33Z")

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Quote:  
"And NO she doesn’t look even vaguely ridiculous simulating house cleaning in high heels and panties. "

Agreed! Standard issue when Mrs Beech does the hoovering (ok watches me do it!)

Anyway, not so pretty, but quite attractive (big difference)  
And HAIR, how come nobody’s mentioned those fantastic long blond locks?

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**Author:** ![Urban\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Urban\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urban_Ranger)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-even-need-to-be-smart-when-youre-this-pretty/215549/39 "2003-11-28T10:55:53Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by 7 up yours \*  
> Forget it… she’s taken!

Go right ahead. She’s very forgettable. 😛

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**Author:** ![wendyrules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/85e7bf/32.png) [@wendyrules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wendyrules)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2003, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-even-need-to-be-smart-when-youre-this-pretty/215549/40 "2003-11-28T11:04:32Z")

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May I interrupt?!! _ahem… clears throat_

No? I can’t?..Well sorry, I’m a female, therefore I **WILL**!!! I believe what makes a woman (or man for that matter) is NOT their looks, but their own self-confidence in themselves. As spogga said, a 40-45 year old woman was obviously appreciated as being attractive NOT because she was young, nubile, blonde and willowly thin - but perhaps because she portrayed a comfortable aura of self-confidence within herself… at ease with her own attitudes, behaviour, body and presentation. Not having to rely on the teeny-bopper perspex aura that all the “fine young thangs seem to ooze” just to receive some kind of sexual attention.

To be at ease with one’s self is the sexiest attribute that any Human Being can portray, I reckon. 🆒

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