# Do you ever want to grab a transvestite and... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 24, 2003, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-want-to-grab-a-transvestite-and/190669 "2003-07-24T18:00:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2003, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-want-to-grab-a-transvestite-and/190669/61 "2003-07-26T18:20:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > Can we say Mullet Heaven? In PITTSBURGH? Er … you _can_ say it, but you may not. No, come to The South. Come to a Wal-Mart (or “better”, a Super Wal-Mart) on a weekend in the summer. Fashion is frozen down here once you enter your late 20s, I think. I have no other explanation for the poofyhair mullets (to be fair, they’re not ALWAYS mullets) and the guys who look like they just take razors to the areas directly around their ears … and the rest be damned. And the clothes. God, the clothes. Let’s just say inner city 80s Detroit meets The Waltons (ironic, eh?;)). Except the clothes are a bit less holey and such than that. I wish I were joking. ---
**Author:** ![Krisfer\_the\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Krisfer\_the\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Krisfer_the_Cat)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-want-to-grab-a-transvestite-and/190669/62 "2003-07-27T05:16:35Z")
My son to be ex brother in law is MtF. She was a damn ugly male… oddly enough she’s a better looking woman. Not great but better than “damned ugly”… The is another MtF that hangs out at our library. Or transvestite… at least I assume so. She looks okay… but still there’s “something” ya know like hearing a lie in someones voice. This isnt meant to be a slam but its the only way I can describe “why” I don’t think she waa born a female. I always nod and say Good Evening… we both like art books. at our Super Wal Mart you find out just WHOM doesnt believe in oral hygiene! EWWW! ---
**Author:** ![Winterwren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Winterwren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winterwren)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-want-to-grab-a-transvestite-and/190669/63 "2003-07-27T12:24:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cicada2003 \* > \*\*{snip} > > Okay. Some years ago, right around Halloween (this is important) I went into the grocery story and there was a guy in a yellow formal. Kind of a prom dress thing. No–more of a bridesmaid’s dress. Strapless, backless. And high silver heels. > > Other than that, he’d made no effort at all. Mustache, not shaved. Hairy shoulders, not shaved. Lots of long curly hair which might or might not have been a wig, but if it _was_ a wig then I will give him a few more effort points. > > And he was at the deli buying potato salad. For (I have to assume) the party he was on his way to? > > I should mention that this particular store was frequented by people who were actual, serious transvestites. I never failed to see at least one in there, and they looked (mostly) good. Occasionally I would see one that didn’t quite have it something down but it was usually the body language. But this guy–I would have guessed he’d lost a bet, except he was just so matter of fact about it. > > At least yellow was one of his colors. \*\* I know a guy who wears women’s clothing regularly (skirts, pantyhose, high heeled pumps). Bearded, hairy-chested – he just finds them more comfortable than men’s clothing. After the first glance, though, most folks think nothing of it, except when he does something weird (like getting a pure white petticoat to wear under an emerald green prom dress with beige lace trim – then we come down on him). ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2003, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-want-to-grab-a-transvestite-and/190669/64 "2003-07-27T14:10:13Z")
> [@](#): > > chat with Wife about her female complaints, “You know how it is with us girls.” In the comic strip [Venus Envy](http://venusenvy.keenspace.com), the main character, who is a teenage pre-op MtF, gets, to her horror, an erection at school. She’s desperately trying to cover up, rooted to the seat, and her coach (whose appearance does nothing to improve the situation) demands to know why she isn’t going to gym class. “Women’s troubles,” she grins desperately. He ewwwws and lets her off. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-want-to-grab-a-transvestite-and/190669/65 "2003-07-28T14:25:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Winterwren \* > \*\*…except when he does something weird (like getting a pure white petticoat to wear under an emerald green prom dress with beige lace trim – then we come down on him). \*\* I was calming down about this whole situation and about to let this thread die a natural death when I read THIS. What the fuck was he thinking? I’m having enough trouble dealing with that dress (those colors look good together on Chrysler convertibles, but on CLOTHES? Navy and beige, maybe, but GREEN?) without going into the utter cluelessness of those petticoats. Didn’t his mother teach him ANYTHING? ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-want-to-grab-a-transvestite-and/190669/66 "2003-07-28T17:22:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dropzone \* > \*\*No problem. I much prefer the company of women. Too many men are so, I don’t know, LIMITED. \*\* > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by KellyM \* > \*\* dropzone, that’s exactly my position on the matter. The vast majority of men are mindnumbingly boring. Why should I spend time with them? > > Guinastasia, I have a bit of an anti-male streak in me. I try not to let it get the better of me, though. \*\* Lets see the vast majority of males are either “mindnumbingly boring” or “LIMITED”. And your attributing this “characteristic” solely due to their gender? If someone made posts like this and confessed their “anti-female” bias they would be justifiably roasted alive by the Pitizens. How are your posts different now? I have to admit I am disappointed in you both, especially in a thread where tolerance for others different from you was being showcased. But that of course is rather LIMITED of me to notice. Let me apologize in advance for the Billions of mindnumbingly boring males on the planet, sorry to have troubled you. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-want-to-grab-a-transvestite-and/190669/67 "2003-07-28T18:38:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Cicada2003 \* > \*\* > > Okay. Some years ago, right around Halloween (this is important) I went into the grocery story and there was a guy in a yellow formal. Kind of a prom dress thing. No–more of a bridesmaid’s dress. Strapless, backless. And high silver heels. > > Other than that, he’d made no effort at all. Mustache, not shaved. Hairy shoulders, not shaved. Lots of long curly hair which might or might not have been a wig, but if it _was_ a wig then I will give him a few more effort points. > > \*\* Maybe he was making an effort. Maybe he was trying to look like a guy in a dress. I believe it’s called a “genderfuck”. Ya know, destroying false paradim, liberating us from the hegemony of outdated gender constructs…all that good stuff. Or maybe it was just Halloween, I dunno. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-want-to-grab-a-transvestite-and/190669/68 "2003-07-28T18:55:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elf6c \* > \*\*Lets see the vast majority of males are either “mindnumbingly boring” or “LIMITED”. \*\* "VAST majority? Hmmm…yeah, that number is about right. \*\* > [@](#): > > And your attributing this “characteristic” solely due to their gender?\*\* No, but to societal pressures to conform to a beer swilling, sports viewing, and ball scratching norm. \*\* > [@](#): > > If someone made posts like this and confessed their “anti-female” bias they would be justifiably roasted alive by the Pitizens. How are your posts different now?\*\* A WOMAN finding women boring would fare better than a MAN. As I am a MAN and Kelly’s seen it from both sides like Tiresias we can tar the majority of men with the brush of tedium. \*\* > [@](#): > > I have to admit I am disappointed in you both\*\* After three years somebody here had high enough expectations from me to be disappointed? I’m touched. \*\* > [@](#): > > especially in a thread where tolerance for others different from you was being showcased.\*\* If you read my original post you will see it was QUITE intolerant, than you very much. ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-want-to-grab-a-transvestite-and/190669/69 "2003-07-28T19:06:00Z")
It’s nice to see some take pride in their achievements, but I am not sure baseless gender stereotyping on a board professed to fighting ignorance (not reveling in it) is much to be proud of. Also nice try for the funny, but you missed by a quarter mile. Best to stick with your beer commercial based understanding of gender. I would like to help with your cranial-rectal inversion but I have alot of “beer swilling, sports viewing, and ball scratching” to catch up on evidently. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-want-to-grab-a-transvestite-and/190669/70 "2003-07-28T19:27:06Z")
“Baseless?” My dear boy, you obviously hang out with a better class of guy than I. Why do you think I spend so much time here? Gay or straight, with the guy in Real Life once we get past the “How about them Cubs. Sox, Bears, or Bulls?” part of the conversation it lapses into an uncomfortable silence. ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-want-to-grab-a-transvestite-and/190669/71 "2003-07-28T20:00:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by dropzone \* > \*\*“Baseless?” My dear boy, you obviously hang out with a better class of guy than I. Why do you think I spend so much time here? Gay or straight, with the guy in Real Life once we get past the “How about them Cubs. Sox, Bears, or Bulls?” part of the conversation it lapses into an uncomfortable silence. \*\* I guess I do. But not to belabor the obvious, there are lots and lots of males posting here intelligently on a wide range of topics outside of sports, beer and the joys of a good scratch. Based on the sports teams, sounds like you are in Chicago. When I was in practice there I met tons of interesting people- its a great city. Sorry you have not had much luck. Maybe a change of entertainment venues might be in order? Not to come off as the great male crusader ™, but maybe basing your opinion of the male gender on your subjective impressions of a very, very, very small sample size of that population you are evaluating may not be the best idea. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-want-to-grab-a-transvestite-and/190669/72 "2003-07-28T20:43:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elf6c \* > **But not to belabor the obvious, there are lots and lots of males posting here intelligently on a wide range of topics outside of sports, beer and the joys of a good scratch.** Well, I really can’t speak highly enough of the joys of a good scratch, but in my last post I did refer to the men here in Doperville as exceptions.\*\* > [@](#): > > Sorry you have not had much luck. Maybe a change of entertainment venues might be in order?\*\* Hah! The assumption that I have a social life! No, most of my exposure to men these days is through work, indeed a “very, very, very small sample size” and “evaluating (based on them)may not be the best idea.” That said, I prefer and have long preferred, the company of women. (shrugging my shoulders) Just the way I am, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2003, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-want-to-grab-a-transvestite-and/190669/73 "2003-07-28T22:54:45Z")
I read the OP and thought of a new series: _Queer Eye for the Trans Guy_ That is all. Esprix [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-want-to-grab-a-transvestite-and/190669.md?page=3)