# Do You Ever Watch Opposition YouTube?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 22, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-watch-opposition-youtube/826539 "2018-12-22T17:21:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-watch-opposition-youtube/826539/21 "2018-12-23T11:15:46Z")

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Assuming you mean alt-right videos, not really. I do watch takedowns of them, occasionally, and I keep myself informed of what they say in text form, but I don’t really watch the videos themselves.

I do watch some videos from people with different views than mine, if there is anything interesting about them based on the title and the first little bit. I just recently watched a video from some Christian college about how awesome Puddleglum is, for example. I didn’t agree with the sermon-like setup or some of the message, but it was an interesting idea of how depression and faith can intertwine.

But there’s a difference between “things from the other side” and “things that are so awful that it makes me angry to even watch the propaganda.” And, no, if you slip in edgy, clearly racist humor, I’m not going to watch your cryptofascist bullshit.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-watch-opposition-youtube/826539/22 "2018-12-23T12:49:31Z")

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I’ve seen this stupid fucking movie before. In the next scene, the OP starts farting out posts like _You know, I’m left of center, but don’t you think is Trump is right? About everything?_

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-watch-opposition-youtube/826539/23 "2018-12-23T13:03:10Z")

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I used to not mind consuming the right-wing stuff if it was spoken about reasonably, at a logical level. I’m centre-left in the bell shaped curve, so centre-right is really just a few minor differences of opinion.

But it’s turned into an irrational dumpster-fire of angry hatred, and reasoned discourse just isn’t possible anymore. Somehow their level of intelligence has plummeted too. It’s frightening and frustrating. I have to stay away, for my own sanity’s sake.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-watch-opposition-youtube/826539/24 "2018-12-23T13:26:13Z")

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I tried watching some Prager u videos but they started having a lot of logical fallacies so I quit watching.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-watch-opposition-youtube/826539/25 "2018-12-23T13:29:35Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> YouTube videos are usually people ranting about crap with no cites or sources to back them up. Why would I watch that?
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> I do, however, use the Fox News web site, since it’s the only one without a lot of flash or auto-run videos and other crap. I know how to find the facts in a story and disregard opinion.

This sums it up for me as well.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-watch-opposition-youtube/826539/26 "2018-12-23T13:33:28Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> I’ve seen this stupid fucking movie before. In the next scene, the OP starts farting out posts like _You know, I’m left of center, but don’t you think is Trump is right? About everything?_

But this movie has a 110% rating on the alt-right review aggregator site _Putrid Potatoes_, trailing only the Dinesh D’Souza documentary _Liberals Suck, Right?_ and a looping GIF of Hillary Clinton being punched in the tits by Trump dressed as Uncle Sam.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-watch-opposition-youtube/826539/27 "2018-12-23T13:35:40Z")

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It would be fun to hear the definitions. For many Americans I think FoxNews is the loyal center, while CNN is leftist. :smack:

I didn’t use to watch News videos, but frequently do now since the news has become so … interesting. Stephen Colbert is my favorite, but I also watch some commentary on MSNBC and CNN. I’m afraid I watch more for recreational outrage than information.

Since Colbert et al show clips from FoxNews I get my fill of them, but a few months ago I clicked on Michael Avenatti, barely noticing it was FoXNews. Avenatti was interviewed by Tucker Carlson, whom I’d never heard of.

Wow! At one point Avenatti mentioned that Carlson had promised not to use his favorite bully-brat insult on the air. Instead, unbeknownst to Avenatti, the insult was continually scrolling across the bottom of the screen. Avenatti was never allowed to finish a sentence — Carlson continually interrupted with a fresh insult or non sequitur.

But click the “Yes I did watch opposition” box for me, please. No plans to try again soon, though.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-watch-opposition-youtube/826539/28 "2018-12-23T13:36:16Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> I used to not mind consuming the right-wing stuff if it was spoken about reasonably, at a logical level. I’m centre-left in the bell shaped curve, so centre-right is really just a few minor differences of opinion.
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> But it’s turned into an irrational dumpster-fire of angry hatred, and reasoned discourse just isn’t possible anymore. Somehow their level of intelligence has plummeted too. It’s frightening and frustrating. I have to stay away, for my own sanity’s sake.

Once right wing argument became right wing propaganda, I stopped watching/listening/reading. I already know what they’re going to say, and I already know that it’s going to deliberately misconstrue truth and facts, so there’s no reason to watch. I don’t want to understand the conservative point of view; I want other people to simply wake the fuck up and educate themselves.

Occasionally, on an outlet like PBS News Hour, I will sometimes hear something that passes for a legitimate, reasonable viewpoint or analysis from a conservative. On Friday night, for example, I listened to Marco Rubio talking about the looming government shutdown, and I found it hard to disagree with what he was saying, pointing out that Democrats had a few months (or weeks ago?) agreed to funding a border wall or something along those lines (forgot exactly what he said to tell the truth but it made sense).

As an aside, I often find Rubio to be a caricature, but sometimes he ends up being half-assed intelligent and reasonable, unlike that chickenhawk clown from South Carolina who shall not be named.

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**Author:** ![MortSahlFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@MortSahlFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MortSahlFan)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-watch-opposition-youtube/826539/29 "2018-12-23T13:51:39Z")

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Fox is probably the worst, but the rest are awful. Definitely not liberal. Financial bias. People use the term “right” and “left” out of laziness. There really is no left-wing in America, not since the 30s… Since CNN has no access to Trump, they’ll attack him for ratings. It doesn’t make it “liberal”, either… I also remember anyone on MSNBC who criticized going into Iraq was fired (Cenk, Donahue, etc). Same with the NYT, they fired Chris Hedges.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-watch-opposition-youtube/826539/30 "2018-12-23T14:39:46Z")

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YouTube? The site with videos on how to troubleshoot and repair appliances?

Why would I want to watch a racist fix his washing machine?

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-watch-opposition-youtube/826539/31 "2018-12-23T16:10:29Z")

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I don’t bother with YouTube for anything except the occasional how-to by someone with at least a passing familiarity with English or the rare music video. Oh, and puppies.

I’ll read op-eds by people I disagree with (the Wall St. Journal is good for this, as it has contributors with some degree of critical thinking capacity even though they are often wrong). Wading through a 20-30 minute video? Forget that.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-watch-opposition-youtube/826539/32 "2018-12-23T16:38:54Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> YouTube? The site with videos on how to troubleshoot and repair appliances?
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> Why would I want to watch a racist fix his washing machine?

I only watch how-to videos (e.g. how the hell do I open this stupid key fob without breaking it so I can replace the goddamn battery before I throw the piece of shit into the garbage disposal) and even then, begin seething if the chirpy twit doesn’t cut to the chase within the first fifteen seconds.

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**Author:** ![MortSahlFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@MortSahlFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MortSahlFan)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-watch-opposition-youtube/826539/33 "2018-12-23T17:11:30Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> I don’t bother with YouTube for anything except the occasional how-to by someone with at least a passing familiarity with English or the rare music video. Oh, and puppies.
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> I’ll read op-eds by people I disagree with (the Wall St. Journal is good for this, as it has contributors with some degree of critical thinking capacity even though they are often wrong). Wading through a 20-30 minute video? Forget that.

There is nothing more annoying than thinking you are getting an actual interview, only to find some guy taking a 2-minute story and stretching it to 20-30… A lot of filler, but when you find someone great, spread it around, and hopefully it’ll rise to the top, setting a better example for future YouTubers.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-watch-opposition-youtube/826539/34 "2018-12-23T17:22:49Z")

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No, but I have noted right-wing ads before left-wing videos. WTF is somebody thinking?

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**Author:** ![MortSahlFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@MortSahlFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MortSahlFan)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-watch-opposition-youtube/826539/35 "2018-12-23T17:35:24Z")

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> [@E-DUB](#):
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> No, but I have noted right-wing ads before left-wing videos. WTF is somebody thinking?

Probably trying to find the very few who’d actually click them, to be stored later in another database for future advertisements. That is odd, though. Do you remember what kind they were?

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**Author:** ![Trafalgar\_Laura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trafalgar_laura/32/2907_2.png) [@Trafalgar\_Laura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trafalgar_Laura)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-watch-opposition-youtube/826539/36 "2018-12-23T18:10:03Z")

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No… I don’t even watch youtube for political opinions I agree with, outside of maybe comedy routines.

As others have also said, I do read articles, blog posts and threads that seem to have a bias or view I don’t agree with. But sit through a tedious youtube video in the hopes that something of value will show up? There’s better ways than youtube to learn about complicated issues. And better uses for youtube, like animal videos.

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-watch-opposition-youtube/826539/37 "2018-12-23T18:22:04Z")

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I catalog Youtube videos a few days a week and I end up saving some to watch later (I only take about 15 seconds to catalog them) because they’re just so ridiculous I can’t just pass it by. I really never see “right of center” though. It’s always faaaar right stuff, especially the Clinton conspiracy stuff. Every once in a while I’ll encounter some far left stuff too though so it balances out.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-watch-opposition-youtube/826539/38 "2018-12-23T18:31:31Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> YouTube? The site with videos on how to troubleshoot and repair appliances?
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> Why would I want to watch a racist fix his washing machine?

Even racists need clean clothes.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-watch-opposition-youtube/826539/39 "2018-12-23T18:49:02Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Even racists need clean clothes.

Can’t beat the feel of sheets fresh from the dryer.  
And to MortSahlFan: Preager U. CTV, (which I presume stands for Conservative TV). Anyway, onward.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-ever-watch-opposition-youtube/826539/40 "2018-12-23T18:49:14Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> Even racists need clean clothes.

[Especially](https://www.motherjones.com/media/2008/03/aryan-outfitters-kkk-seamstress/) racists.

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