# Do you feel proud for threatening a 15-year-old?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 26, 2006, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-feel-proud-for-threatening-a-15-year-old/354353 "2006-04-26T20:11:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-feel-proud-for-threatening-a-15-year-old/354353/41 "2006-04-28T03:28:24Z")

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My apologies. Edited version of prior post:

[QUOTE=xtisme]  
Just a point of board lore here…is trolling permitted if its in The Pit?

-XT  
[/QUOTE]

Be direct. Who the fuck is trolling? Perhaps you mean this post:

> [@megellan](#):
>
> Regarding your pitchfork suggestion, since you said “please”, I’ll give due consideration. But, perhaps you can send your wife or your asshole-in-training son over to show me how it’s done. I’ve read on the internet that she’s quite amazing. She can get it so far up the handle hits her throat and she can make it bob like an Adams apple. You and your mates have worked her well. My compliments.

You get what you give. Il’l have you note that I never brought cumstain’s family into the fray – up untill he involved my son and ex-wife into this exchange.

Calling me out – or implying – that I deserve a warning at a a minimum for trolling is strictly against the rules. JIC you didn’t know. But I very much doubt that you didn’t…

Not that it matters to you, but you’ve just lost quite a bit of the respect I _used to have_ for you. Unless of course it’s the **magellan** A-hole you’re speaking of.

[QUOTE=xtisme]  
Just a point of board lore here…is trolling permitted if its in The Pit?-XT  
[/QUOTE]

Be direct. Who the fuck is trolling? Perhaps you mean this post:

> [@megellan](#):
>
> Regarding your pitchfork suggestion, since you said “please”, I’ll give due consideration. But, perhaps you can send your wife or your asshole-in-training son over to show me how it’s done. I’ve read on the internet that she’s quite amazing. She can get it so far up the handle hits her throat and she can make it bob like an Adams apple. You and your mates have worked her well. My compliments.

You get what you give. Il’l have you note that I never brought cumstain’s family into the fray – up untill he involved my son and ex-wife into this exchange.

Calling me out – or implying – that I am deserves a warning at a a minimum for trolling is strictly against the rules – besides the fact that I am not – reading comprehensionb problemss are obviously not my problem. Juust in case yo you didn’t know. But I very much doubt that’s the case here…

Not that it matters to you, but you’ve just lost quite a bit of the respect I _used to have_ for you. Unless of course, it’s the magellan A-hole you’re speaking of.

Then again, I very much doub it.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-feel-proud-for-threatening-a-15-year-old/354353/42 "2006-04-28T03:30:51Z")

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My apologies. Edited version of prior post:

[QUOTE=xtisme]  
Just a point of board lore here…is trolling permitted if its in The Pit?

-XT  
[/QUOTE]

Be direct. Who the fuck is trolling? Perhaps you mean this post:

> [@megellan](#):
>
> Regarding your pitchfork suggestion, since you said “please”, I’ll give due consideration. But, perhaps you can send your wife or your asshole-in-training son over to show me how it’s done. I’ve read on the internet that she’s quite amazing. She can get it so far up the handle hits her throat and she can make it bob like an Adams apple. You and your mates have worked her well. My compliments.

You get what you give. Il’l have you note that I never brought cumstain’s family into the fray – up untill he involved my son and ex-wife into this exchange.

Calling me out – or implying – that I deserve a warning at a a minimum for trolling is strictly against the rules. JIC you didn’t know. But I very much doubt that you didn’t…

Not that it matters to you, but you’ve just lost quite a bit of the respect I _used to have_ for you. Unless of course it’s the **magellan** A-hole you’re speaking of.

[QUOTE=xtisme]  
Just a point of board lore here…is trolling permitted if its in The Pit?-XT  
[/QUOTE]

Be direct. Who the fuck is trolling? Perhaps you mean this post:

> [@megellan](#):
>
> Regarding your pitchfork suggestion, since you said “please”, I’ll give due consideration. But, perhaps you can send your wife or your asshole-in-training son over to show me how it’s done. I’ve read on the internet that she’s quite amazing. She can get it so far up the handle hits her throat and she can make it bob like an Adams apple. You and your mates have worked her well. My compliments.

You get what you give. Il’l have you note that I never brought cumstain’s family into the fray – up untill he involved my son and ex-wife into this exchange.

Calling me out – or implying – that I am deserve a warning at a a minimum for trolling is strictly against the rules – besides the fact that I am not. N ot that reading comprehension problems are a problem of mine . Just in case you didn’t know…but I very much doubt that’s the case here.

Not that it matters to you, but you’ve just lost quite a bit of the respect I _used to have_ for you. Unless of course, it’s the magellan A-hole you’re speaking of.

Then again, I very much doub it.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-feel-proud-for-threatening-a-15-year-old/354353/43 "2006-04-28T03:33:30Z")

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Apologies for the triple post, but the board’s sllow as molasses on my end. Second post never showed-up as published. Till now that is.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-feel-proud-for-threatening-a-15-year-old/354353/44 "2006-04-28T04:24:28Z")

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[QUOTE=rjung]  
Not really a Pitting as much as general mockery and jeering of this week’s pack of mouth breathers:

:wally

I guess it’s easier to anonymously beat up a 15-year-old girl than to hop on the next flight to Iraq and blow up some brown people…  
[/QUOTE]

Well, let’s look at it this way: either she’s mature enough to formulate her own political opinions- in which case she’s adult enough to take the crap which comes with having political opinions. OR she’s a _kid_ who isn’t mature enough to handle the attacks or forumlate her own opinions. Which is it?

Not that those idots are defensible, but the whole “she’s a **15 yo** so be nice to here” is wrong. She appears to be mature enough to formulate and promulgate her political agenda- ergo, she’s going to get flack.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-feel-proud-for-threatening-a-15-year-old/354353/45 "2006-04-28T04:27:25Z")

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[QUOTE=DrDeth]  
**formulate** :smack:

“she’s a **15 yo** so be nice to\*\* her\*\*” .  
[/QUOTE]  
:smack: :smack:

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-feel-proud-for-threatening-a-15-year-old/354353/46 "2006-04-28T05:52:33Z")

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[QUOTE=RedFury]  
You get what you give.  
[/QUOTE]

Well, at least you learned something. Yes, you’re the one who attacked me—out of the blue—complete with pathetic mention of said pitchfork. I showed what a dumbfuck you are and gave you a nice bitch-slapping. You came back with more sputtering and showed that you can’t even craft a good insult. I was tempted to bitch-slap you again, but your response was so lame it kind of took the fun out of it.

And then I scroll down and see that if my goal was to reveal the level of your stupidity and sputtering to the world, all I had to was sit back and wait for you to do it for me.

Posting that dumb, dishonest shit that oozed out of your festering brain was more than I could have hoped for. Even once. But for you to include it TWICE :rolleyes: :rolleyes: in the same post—and then post the whole dishonest, nonsensical mess THREE TIMES! 😃 :smack: 😃 :smack: 😃 :smack: I must say, I had great respect for the degree of your dumbfuckness, but you proved my imagination deficient. And then you try to lie your way out of your stupidity.

Well done, Red Furry Dumb Fuck. Well done.

One more thing. It is also a violation, I believe, to change a poster’s name within the post box. Not, evidently, that you care.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-feel-proud-for-threatening-a-15-year-old/354353/47 "2006-04-28T06:24:28Z")

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[QUOTE=magellan01]  
One more thing. It is also a violation, I believe, to change a poster’s name within the post box.  
[/QUOTE]

You feel naked without your 01? Okay, General Lee.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-feel-proud-for-threatening-a-15-year-old/354353/48 "2006-04-28T07:07:58Z")

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> [@](#):
>
> All in all, she’s made about seventy of them, she says, and most of them oppose Bush and his Iraq War.
> 
> “I was just so mad about it,” she explains. “And the media are not showing the real images of the war, so I did a lot research and started my own website.”

Ha, ha, ha, ha! She was “so mad about it.” The media wasn’t showing “real images.” She did “a lot of research.” She _started her own website._

Now our poor widdle 15-year-old “peace activist” is upset because someone exercised his freedom of speech and said he’d “jack off on your parents if I could.”

Get over it honey-bunny. Life’s rough on you freedom of speech wielding “peace activists.”

> [@](#):
>
> “WWJD” (“What Would Jesus Do”) is a powerful animation that features a soundtrack of a child singing “Jesus loves me, this I know” while one picture after another of a wounded, bloody, or screaming Iraqi child fills the screen.

She can come up with shit like that and she’s “unprepared for the viciousness of the negative feedback?”

Aw, too bad, pooky-wooky.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-feel-proud-for-threatening-a-15-year-old/354353/49 "2006-04-28T07:28:39Z")

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[QUOTE=RedFury]  
Be direct. Who the fuck is trolling? Perhaps y0u mean this post  
[/QUOTE]

Actually, IMHO, you both are (which means nothing since I’m no mod). It was a serious question…can you bait someone in The Pit, er, legally? It seems the answer is ‘yes’.

Carry on. Its facinating to watch the childishness on both sides, and to watch you melt down…you don’t do it by half measures, thats for sure.

-XT

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-feel-proud-for-threatening-a-15-year-old/354353/50 "2006-04-28T13:55:14Z")

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[QUOTE=DrDeth]  
she’s going to get flack.  
[/QUOTE]  
[nitpick pets her peeve]

It’s “flak”, not “flack”.

Flak: Antiaircraft artillery (from Fl(ieger)a(bwehr)k(anone), aircraft-defense gun); excessive or abusive criticism

Flack: PR flunky; Scotty McClellan

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-feel-proud-for-threatening-a-15-year-old/354353/51 "2006-04-28T14:00:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
You feel naked without your 01? Okay, General Lee.  
[/QUOTE]

Well, he also went from m **a** gellan to m **e** gellan. Hard to tell which one is being more petty about this. Guess it depends on if **Reb** purposefully changed the name.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-feel-proud-for-threatening-a-15-year-old/354353/52 "2006-04-28T14:25:33Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
Guess it depends on if **Reb** purposefully changed the name.  
[/QUOTE]

I doubt it. He’d’ve had to type magellan’s name manually since his post also contained quotes from xtisme, and the software isn’t set up for easy multi-source quoting. Dropping the “01” is reasonable enough, and changing “a” to “e” is just a typo.

Magellan so ain’t gellin’.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-feel-proud-for-threatening-a-15-year-old/354353/53 "2006-04-28T15:42:19Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
**magellan1** , the Pot ([pot123@yahoo.com](mailto:pot123@yahoo.com)) was calling the Kettle ([kettle@aol.com](mailto:kettle@aol.com)) black (“your black”).  
[/QUOTE]

Precisely.

And pot123 is still a lovely shade of sable.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-feel-proud-for-threatening-a-15-year-old/354353/54 "2006-04-28T15:47:41Z")

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[QUOTE=xtisme]  
Actually, IMHO, you both are (which means nothing since I’m no mod). It was a serious question…can you bait someone in The Pit, er, legally? It seems the answer is ‘yes’.

Carry on. Its facinating to watch the childishness on both sides, and to watch you melt down…you don’t do it by half measures, thats for sure.

-XT  
[/QUOTE]

Fair enough. And you’re right, scuzzball **01** is not worth the rise.

* * *

**Bryan** ,

Right you are – only I’m not sure whether it was a typo or my (increasingly) poor eyesight.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-feel-proud-for-threatening-a-15-year-old/354353/55 "2006-04-28T16:52:45Z")

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[QUOTE=xtisme]  
Actually, IMHO, you both are (which means nothing since I’m no mod). It was a serious question…can you bait someone in The Pit, er, legally? It seems the answer is ‘yes’.

Carry on. Its facinating to watch the childishness on both sides, and to watch you melt down…you don’t do it by half measures, thats for sure.

-XT  
[/QUOTE]  
**xtisme** , trolling is indeed against the rules in the Pit, as is accusing others of trolling.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-feel-proud-for-threatening-a-15-year-old/354353/56 "2006-04-28T17:20:08Z")

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[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy]  
[nitpick pets her peeve]

It’s “flak”, not “flack”.

Flak: Antiaircraft artillery (from Fl(ieger)a(bwehr)k(anone), aircraft-defense gun); excessive or abusive criticism

Flack: PR flunky; Scotty McClellan  
[/QUOTE]

Well, I do usually spell it “flak”, _but_:

> **[flack - WordReference.com Dictionary of English](https://www.wordreference.com/definition/flack)**
>
> flack - WordReference English dictionary, questions, discussion and forums. All Free.

\*flack  
A noun  
1 antiaircraft, antiaircraft gun, flak, flack, pom-pom, ack-ack, ack-ack gun

artillery designed to shoot upward at airplanes \*

> **[Urban Dictionary: flack](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=flack)**
>
> flack: crap, or abuse; excess pressure on oneself; burdens or weight added by unecessary trials or psychological pressures

\*. flack

crap, or abuse; excess pressure on oneself; burdens or weight added by unecessary trials or psychological pressures

My teacher gave me flack for talking in class; Why can’t you keep the flack light when I’m trying to study?

1. Flack

Flack: Based on the word flak, flack is the sensation that one is being attacked by something that doesn’t make direct hits while still causing trouble or damage.

Tucker’s latest post really flacked me\*.

[http://www.thefreedictionary.com/flack](http://www.thefreedictionary.com/flack)  
flack 2 (flk)  
n.  
Variant of flak.

[http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary\_1861611902/flack.html](http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861611902/flack.html)

_flack (2)  
flack  
noun  
Definition:  
arms  
Another spelling of flak_

[http://www.bartleby.com/61/79/F0157900.html](http://www.bartleby.com/61/79/F0157900.html)  
\*flack2  
NOUN: Variant of flak. \*

😛

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-feel-proud-for-threatening-a-15-year-old/354353/57 "2006-04-28T17:34:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Giraffe]  
xtisme, trolling is indeed against the rules in the Pit  
[/QUOTE]

:dubious: If you say so.

[QUOTE=Giraffe]  
as is accusing others of trolling.  
[/QUOTE]

I notice which got a response though. But…fair enough. Its your board after all. 😛

-XT

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-feel-proud-for-threatening-a-15-year-old/354353/58 "2006-04-28T17:35:52Z")

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[QUOTE=RedFury]  
Fair enough. And you’re right, scuzzball **01** is not worth the rise.  
[/QUOTE]

Then why did you bother in the first place, shithead? :rolleyes:

And then continue, only to reveal yourself to be an unhinged ass? Man, you’re a dumb fuck. But if you’re now so happy to have slayed me with such an imaginative cutting insult (and you used red!) that you’re happy to crawl back under your rock, and not respond to me or offer you blabbering commentary on my posts, everybody wins!!

In closing, I would like to congratulate you, though, on the award bestowed upon you by **Wolfian**. No one can ever take that away from you.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-feel-proud-for-threatening-a-15-year-old/354353/59 "2006-04-28T18:34:53Z")

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[QUOTE=xtisme]  
:dubious: If you say so.  
[/QUOTE]  
I was a bit terse in my first reponse – I’ll clarify. Trolling as we define it is a pattern of behavior, not a singular act. Consistently taking up false positions to try to piss people off is trolling. Consistently hijacking threads in order to bait people is trolling. Getting mad and saying rude things to someone in the Pit is not trolling. Making a silly, over-the-top argument which provoke hostility in others is not trolling.

We don’t want to intercede in arguments between posters, especially in the Pit. That would make for a shitty message board. If someone is being an asshole or saying stupid things, crush them with brilliant insights and caustic mockery. Attention-seeking trolls, on the other hand, crave the mockery and attention so we would rather you informed us when you suspected someone of posting only to cause problems. **Any attention-seeking/inflammatory behavior which you believe should result in moderator action should be handled via email/reported posts, not in-thread accusations.** So, by definition, if you believe someone is breaking the “no trolling” rule, you should not say so in the thread.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-feel-proud-for-threatening-a-15-year-old/354353/60 "2006-04-28T19:04:01Z")

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[QUOTE=DrDeth]  
Well, I do usually spell it “flak”, _but_:  
😛  
[/QUOTE]  
Yeh, I know. But given the derivation of the word, and its comparatively recent coinage, it drives me mildly berserk to see it spelled with that extraneous C, not least because I suspect the extra letter crept in there through the misspellings of those unable to distinguish the two words.

:: sigh :: It isn’t easy being nitpicky. 😉

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