# Do you guys enjoy hipster movies like these?

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**Created:** [October 13, 2011, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-enjoy-hipster-movies-like-these/599481 "2011-10-13T01:47:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-enjoy-hipster-movies-like-these/599481/21 "2011-10-13T08:38:56Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> The term the OP is looking for is “indie film”. Movies like Juno, Rushmore, (500) Days of Summer, Away We Go, Dan in Real Life, Garden State, Sideways, Nick & Nora’s Infinite Playlist, Lost in Translation, The Life Aquatic with Steve Zaissou, The Girlfriend Experience, Tenure, Napoleon Dynamite, My Blueberry Nights, Smart People, Bottle Rocket, The Royal Tenenbaums, Sunshine Cleaning, Little Miss Sunshine, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and so on all sort of follow a kind of formula:

The Royal Tenenbaum’s is a fantastic film, a classic, and Little Miss Sunshine was ok, I didn’t regret watching it. But even with that, crap like Juno leaves me with no desire to watch any of the other films listed. (I did see Eternal sunshine once, it bored the piss out of me)

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-enjoy-hipster-movies-like-these/599481/22 "2011-10-13T10:22:49Z")

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I think there are three kinds of films that can be called “hipster movies” - movies made by hipsters; movies about hipsters; and movies hipsters like. I doubt the three groups overlap that much.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-enjoy-hipster-movies-like-these/599481/23 "2011-10-13T22:14:21Z")

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> [@GovernmentMan](#):
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> so what exactly makes Zooey Deschanel a hipster?

As with Ellen Page, she acts like a woman who is far less attractive than she really is and is rarely in Big Hollywood Blockbusters[sup]TM[/sup].

> [@GovernmentMan](#):
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> what is the difference between indie and hipster?

Semantics mostly. As Sage Rat pointed out, technically an “indie” film is any film not made by a major studio. However, for the purpose of this thread, we are really talking about quirky Gen X and Gen Y coming of age cofeehouse movies.

> [@GovernmentMan](#):
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> Zooey and Wes Anderson seem like the same type of people - quirky, artsy, probably hang out with similar crowds and in the same neighborhoods in LA and NY, etc

Wes Anderson seems to make films about eccentric rich people. Zooey tends to play a sort of quirky artsy girl next door. But otherwsie yes.

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**Author:** ![carlotta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/898d66/32.png) [@carlotta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carlotta)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2011, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-enjoy-hipster-movies-like-these/599481/24 "2011-10-13T23:22:08Z")

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I always think I will, but then I usually don’t. I watched “Margot at the Wedding” and it was ok, but I only liked the funny bits, (Nicole Kidman treed like a kitten, any scene with Jack Black). I started watching “The Squid and The Whale”, but couldn’t go on.

So. Depressing. I hated every character in the movie, even the 9 year old.

When I clicked on the “Greenberg” trailer, I thought, Hey I meant to see that, I should put it on my Netflix, and then thought, ah but perhaps not.

Wes Anderson is pretty hit or miss for me. I really enjoyed “The Darjeeling Express” but hated “Fantastic Mr. Fox.”

I’m glad I’ve seen enough of this type of movie that I could properly enjoy one of my favorite threads on the Dope ever, **msmith537’s** [Help me write my generic indie film for Sundance.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=549256)

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**Author:** ![GovernmentMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GovernmentMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GovernmentMan)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-enjoy-hipster-movies-like-these/599481/25 "2011-10-14T00:02:55Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> As with Ellen Page, she acts like a woman who is far less attractive than she really is and is rarely in Big Hollywood Blockbusters[sup]TM[/sup].

X-Men 3, Inception? (Ellen Paige)

and Zooey Deschanel has been very Hollywood since the beginning, from Will Ferrel and Jim Carrey comedies to sci-fi (Hitchhikers Guide) and M Night Shyamalan films.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-enjoy-hipster-movies-like-these/599481/26 "2011-10-14T00:19:16Z")

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All three look like something I would like, so I guess I do.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-enjoy-hipster-movies-like-these/599481/27 "2011-10-14T00:57:42Z")

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[Relevant comic.](http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/540)

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-enjoy-hipster-movies-like-these/599481/28 "2011-10-14T04:59:43Z")

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No movie without a Sinatra - Frank, Frank Jr., or Nancy - in it is hip.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-enjoy-hipster-movies-like-these/599481/29 "2011-10-14T05:19:50Z")

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> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#):
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> I have copies of all three on vinyl.

I watch them while drinking Pabst…but only because The Onion told me to.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_A.Robrin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sam_a.robrin/32/14497_2.png) [@Sam\_A.Robrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_A.Robrin)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-enjoy-hipster-movies-like-these/599481/30 "2011-10-14T05:21:19Z")

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I’ve watched a lot of designated “quirky,” “edgy” movies on NetFlix, but for my tastes, most of them don’t go far enough in going too far.

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**Author:** ![GovernmentMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GovernmentMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GovernmentMan)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-enjoy-hipster-movies-like-these/599481/31 "2011-10-14T06:29:07Z")

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> [@Tengu](#):
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> [Relevant comic.](http://thepunchlineismachismo.com/archives/540)

how is that relevant?

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-enjoy-hipster-movies-like-these/599481/32 "2011-10-14T07:37:31Z")

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> [@GovernmentMan](#):
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> how is that relevant?

Misguided attempt to use “hipster” as a pejorative term.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-enjoy-hipster-movies-like-these/599481/33 "2011-10-14T08:30:50Z")

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> [@carlotta](#):
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> I’m glad I’ve seen enough of this type of movie that I could properly enjoy one of my favorite threads on the Dope ever, **msmith537’s** [Help me write my generic indie film for Sundance.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=549256)

I forgot all about that!

As GovernmentMan pointed out, Ellen Page sold out, but I’m still willing to get her pregnent. Also the entire soundtrack will be Eddie Vedder playing the recorder.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-enjoy-hipster-movies-like-these/599481/34 "2011-10-14T12:23:00Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Movies like **Juno** , **Rushmore** , (500) Days of Summer, Away We Go, Dan in Real Life, **Garden State** , Sideways, **Nick & Nora’s Infinite Playlist** , L **ost in Translation** , T **he Life Aquatic with Steve Zaissou** , The Girlfriend Experience, Tenure, Napoleon Dynamite, My Blueberry Nights, Smart People, Bottle Rocket, The Royal Tenenbaums, **Sunshine Cleaning** , **Little Miss Sunshine** , **Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind**

I’ve bolded all the ones I’ve seen. I liked every one of those I saw.

Let me see - would “Pieces of April” fit on there? What about “Easy A”?

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**Author:** ![infinitii](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e8c25b/32.png) [@infinitii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/infinitii)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-enjoy-hipster-movies-like-these/599481/35 "2011-10-14T13:30:14Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> The term the OP is looking for is “indie film”. Movies like Juno, Rushmore, (500) Days of Summer, Away We Go, Dan in Real Life, Garden State, Sideways, Nick & Nora’s Infinite Playlist, Lost in Translation, The Life Aquatic with Steve Zaissou, The Girlfriend Experience, Tenure, Napoleon Dynamite, My Blueberry Nights, Smart People, Bottle Rocket, The Royal Tenenbaums, Sunshine Cleaning, Little Miss Sunshine, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and so on all sort of follow a kind of formula:

I don’t think My Blueberry Nights belongs on that list.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-enjoy-hipster-movies-like-these/599481/36 "2011-10-14T17:50:06Z")

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> [@infinitii](#):
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> I don’t think My Blueberry Nights belongs on that list.

How does it not? It’s basically Snorah Jones on a road trip and hanging out with Jude Law in a coffee shop for the entire film.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-enjoy-hipster-movies-like-these/599481/37 "2011-10-14T17:53:48Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> I’ve bolded all the ones I’ve seen. I liked every one of those I saw.
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> Let me see - would “Pieces of April” fit on there? What about “Easy A”?

I’ve never seen Pieces of April.

I’m not sure about Easy A. It comes awfully close to typical mainstream high school comedy. Then again, it does have Thomas Haden Church and Lisa Kudrow which is pretty indie.

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-enjoy-hipster-movies-like-these/599481/38 "2011-10-14T17:57:55Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> I’m not sure about Easy A. It comes awfully close to typical mainstream high school comedy. Then again, it does have Thomas Haden Church and Lisa Kudrow which is pretty indie.

Easy A is kind of flirting with the genre described in this thread without quite succumbing to it. It has characters and a premise that would fit well in an indie hipster flick, but presents them with the tone of a mainstream high school flick.

Also don’t recall it having a soundtrack heavy with obscure indie bands.

A pretty good movie, though, regardless.

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**Post date:** [October 15, 2011, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-enjoy-hipster-movies-like-these/599481/39 "2011-10-15T21:33:54Z")

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Not really. I’m not big into fashion and unless it’s a topic I care about (realist Munich-school phenomenology, music without lyrics in general, French symbolist poetry, early 20th-C logic), I don’t give a shit about their Hello Kitty ironic T-shirt and funny glasses. We’d have nothing to talk about, and she’d give me plenty to be annoyed about, what with her wasting my time with drivel.

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**Author:** ![jordanr2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@jordanr2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jordanr2)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-guys-enjoy-hipster-movies-like-these/599481/40 "2011-10-17T00:45:03Z")

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> [@GovernmentMan](#):
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_NQobRrZhvo](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NQobRrZhvo)
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVcIUSpz2v0](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVcIUSpz2v0)
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXvBFgk1jGk](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXvBFgk1jGk)
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> all these movies scream “look at how indie i am. all our characters are quirky / witty / artsy who read interesting books and foreign films, reside in Los Angeles / Brooklyn / New England and went to liberal arts colleges and have dysfunctional personal lives”

I don’t really want to defend _Squid and the Whale_ or _Greenberg_ since they’re not personally important, but _Margot at the Wedding_ is a masterpiece and there’s nothing “quirky” about it.

I’ll never understand why some consider characters who “reside in Los Angeles / Brooklyn / New England and went to liberal arts colleges” to be a point against a movie. Who cares about something like this, as long as the movie is _good_? I’m not sure what viewers who deride movies for having relatively privileged characters really want - monochromatic stories full of stone-faced poor folk tryin’ to make ends meet?

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