# Do you have a Passport?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-have-a-passport/697584>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 5, 2014, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-have-a-passport/697584 "2014-09-05T14:49:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-have-a-passport/697584/21 "2014-09-06T10:10:23Z")

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Sure, two of them - Israeli and U.S… Both were valid when I last traveled abroad (Paris, this January).

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-have-a-passport/697584/22 "2014-09-06T10:23:57Z")

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> [@grude](#):
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> On the rare occasion some store clerk fusses when I use it as ID with a credit card I say it is still me, one time a bitch went so far as to call her manager for like $50 USD worth of groceries and the manager said WTF it expired a month ago run the damn transaction lol.

Your wife is quite right. Issues like this are going to become more common the longer your passport is expired. Also, if you should get stopped by the police for any reason, I doubt you’ll be able to go “stick to your job and avoid immigration law” to them.

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**Author:** ![ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a8b319/32.png) [@ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ryan)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-have-a-passport/697584/23 "2014-09-06T13:47:05Z")

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Not a valid one.  
Got one in '99 for a trip to Scotland with friends, never used it again and let it expire in '09.  
US Citizen.

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**Author:** ![eenerms](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/cdc98d/32.png) [@eenerms](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eenerms)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-have-a-passport/697584/24 "2014-09-06T13:50:53Z")

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Yep two…USA and UK…

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-have-a-passport/697584/25 "2014-09-06T13:55:57Z")

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Why, are you going to take us all on a wonderful vacation? 😃

No passport; mine expired and is somewhere at my dad’s house. I keep meaning to get a new one – my employer has offices overseas.

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**Author:** ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-have-a-passport/697584/26 "2014-09-06T14:02:25Z")

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Yes, I have a passport. I like to travel when I can, and even when I’m not travelling by air or across any borders, it makes travelling easier if I have it. It also functions as a useful piece of ID.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-have-a-passport/697584/27 "2014-09-06T14:16:53Z")

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I need one anyway, but if I didn’t travel at all, a passport is still a very strong form of ID, at least in the UK.

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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-have-a-passport/697584/28 "2014-09-06T15:30:53Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Your wife is quite right. Issues like this are going to become more common the longer your passport is expired. Also, if you should get stopped by the police for any reason, I doubt you’ll be able to go “stick to your job and avoid immigration law” to them.

Again as I said in the post I have permanent residency, which is no business of a checkout clerk. I had no issue with her calling a manager for an expired ID.

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**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-have-a-passport/697584/29 "2014-09-06T16:27:59Z")

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I have to keep my passport valid. I’m an expat and don’t have PR so my ability to stay and work is contingent on having a valid passport.

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-have-a-passport/697584/30 "2014-09-06T18:57:28Z")

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Although I am a dual citizen, I have only a US passport. I go into Canada with that and a Canadian citizenship card. But my passport will expire in 2016 and I may get a Canadian passport just so I always have a valid passport, even while getting the US one renewed.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-have-a-passport/697584/31 "2014-09-06T19:01:33Z")

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Yes, USA. Valid passport and passport card.

I was born in the Philippines (of Filipino & Russian ancestry). A few years ago I toyed with the idea of getting a Philippines passport but never did anything about it.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-have-a-passport/697584/32 "2014-09-06T19:32:33Z")

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Maybe I’m misinterpreting, but to me “U.S. National” is a non-citizen who legally resides here.

To answer your question, I’ve never had/needed a passport. (US citizen)

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-have-a-passport/697584/33 "2014-09-06T19:43:34Z")

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Not for a long time, but then got one just last year (I’m 34) to go to Indonesia. I doubt I’ll be using it to go anywhere else in the ten years it’s still valid, though.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-have-a-passport/697584/34 "2014-09-06T19:49:34Z")

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I got my first in 1974 to go to Australia and New Zealand. I think I must be on my eighth. (They used to be good for 5 years, now it’s 10.)

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-have-a-passport/697584/35 "2014-09-06T19:54:17Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> Maybe I’m misinterpreting, but to me “U.S. National” is a non-citizen who legally resides here.

That’s wrong. All U.S. citizens are U.S. nationals. There are also some people considered [U.S. nationals but who are not U.S. citizens,](http://www.immihelp.com/immigration/us-national.html) but most of these live outside the U.S.

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-have-a-passport/697584/36 "2014-09-06T19:54:33Z")

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I have a passport card which only works for countries in North America apparently.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-have-a-passport/697584/37 "2014-09-06T19:58:29Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> I have a passport card which only works for countries in North America apparently.

A US passport card is only good for ground or ship travel. You can’t, for example, fly from the US to Canada or Mexico with just that. You’d need a full passport.

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**Author:** ![missred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/missred/32/14096_2.png) [@missred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missred)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-have-a-passport/697584/38 "2014-09-06T20:18:31Z")

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I first obtained my passport at 16 for travel abroad. After it expired, I went a few years without before renewing when I began traveling to Toronto on business.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-have-a-passport/697584/39 "2014-09-06T20:19:54Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> Although I am a dual citizen, I have only a US passport. I go into Canada with that and a Canadian citizenship card. But my passport will expire in 2016 and I may get a Canadian passport just so I always have a valid passport, even while getting the US one renewed.

I have both a U.S. and Canadian passport. I enter into each country on its passport.

Because, well, you never know.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2014, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-have-a-passport/697584/41 "2014-09-06T21:49:47Z")

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Thanks Colibri for the clarification. I still found the wording confusing.

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