Well, how often is it the case that someone’s defined as a fence-sitter on any issue?
Whenever someone’s opinions on gay rights are mentioned at all, it’s ususally because they’re in support of them or opposed to them.
I’m not sure I understand this. If someone finds it “hard to accept” that gays might, say, get the right to marry, what is that a sign of if not a little bit of homophobia?
What stake do “Hollywood” and “the media” have in furthering the “homosexual cause?”
Oh good sweet Og! I have not been criticizing you for too many posts! I have been criticizing you for not answering any of the meaningful questions posed to you.
And no, I don’t mean by that your position on gay rights. I asked you that once, and when you said you didn’t want to answer, I accepted that. What I asked for, what practically everyone here is asking for, are some concrete examples of the misuse of the term that you are decrying. Simply saying “the media, Hollywood, and politicians” is not good enough. I personally have not been aware of this massive campaign to advance gay rights on the part of “the media, Hollywood, and politicians.” Nor have I ever, as best as I can recall, heard anyone in the news media accuse anyone of being a homophobe, justified or not. So who is doing it? Have I been living in a cave?
You know what? Never mind. I fucking give up. Mr. Visible is right. You are a moron.
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Is there blueberry pie?
Cite?
Examples? I almost never hear the word 'homophobe" in medai discussions. It’s usually the gay rights activists who are marginalized.
Now this is just stupid, paranoid, unsupportable bullshit but just out of curiosity, what are these “societal goals?”
Homophobia is not a clinical “phobia” and nobody ever said it was. It’s not intended to be a diagnosis just a descriptve term for anti-gay bigots. It’s a perfectly acceptable variant use of “phobia” as a suffix. Your chickenshit semantic quibbling is really childish, ignorant and beside the point. If you don’t like the word use “bigot.”
A question that was very quickly answered.
Who does that? Give us some specific examples
What’s dishonest about calling true bigots “bigots” (or “homophobes,” for that matter?)
You have failed to demonstrate any such people have been so labelled, at least not to any significant degree and cerainly not by any sort of “cause” or movement.
Also, who is “they?”
The result is that you get asked to clarify the claims of your OP and to actually respond to the substance of the issues that you, yourself. have raised.
Dipshit.
Ditto. My original responses to you, which I deleted without posting, were much closer to Diogenes’ in tone. But I decided to take a deep breath, count to ten, and give you the benefit of the doubt.
And I originally thought you capable of rational discourse. My bad.
This has got to be the strangest pit thread I have ever read! Not only does Starving Artist seem to think that this is Great Debates, he is so willfully obtuse it’s ridiculous! I’ve never seen such bizarre and vague replies disguised in such a strangely “polite” style. As Stephen Fry once said on Blackadder He twists and turns like a twisty-turny thing.
Nope. Not gonna bite. On the other hand, if you are being genuine and really don’t know, you wouldn’t believe me if I told you. Besides, I’ve answered this elsewhere.
We got… let’s see… off-key lime… Mom’s apple pie, thanks Mom… aerodynamic custard… we got one pumpkin, left over from the holidays…
Nope, no blueberry. Wait! Here’s one… no, that’s Buckleberry. What the heck is a buckleberry, anyway?
You want that a la mode?
I put this in the pit because I knew how it would likely turn out.
My replies only seem vague and bizarre because I am refusing to deflect my argument away from my OP, which is the dishonestness of calling people phobic when they’re not. My style may appear “strangely polite” because I’m trying to genuinely state my position in the case of fierce and oftren erroneous opposition to my position without resorting to calling people names like “fucknuggets,” “assholes,” and “idiots,” which have been directed by me.
God, this is bullshit. You haven’t proven that any part of your OP complaint is rooted in reality.
One more time, you fucking simpleton cite some specific examples or fuck right off.
I don’t know why I’ve wasted this much time on you. I spotted you for what you were after about three posts. I’m going to play along this one last time as if you’re a real person with a sincere complaint. Are you going to cite some examples or aren’t you?
And could you please go into some more detail about your Hollywood conspiracy theory? What is “their” ultimate goal?
Can’t you just pretend I’m a moron and tell me?
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Oops…hit the return key prematurely. Also, with regard to my style of writing, sorry, but this is just the way I talk when I write.
I would reiterate…uh…that is, I’ll say again, that anyone who has difficulty with me personally (or with what I say or how I say it) can go to another thread.
I’ve said this before: you don’t what you’re talking about. Nor do you don’t have an even remotely accurate idea what I am.
Nobody can oppose your position, because nobody knows what the hell it is. Your precious OP is a vague, badly-worded piece of crap that operates on a number of broad assumptions that you refuse to back up with evidence, or even define. Your clarifications consist of insisting that you clarified things already. And you avoid all questions that go to the heart of your position, instead choosing to focus on the abuse you’re receiving, which you richly deserve.
And I’m hurt that you didn’t mention ‘moron’. I thought it was quite apt.
Although your question brought me a smile, and as charming and disarming as it is, I’ll remind you that I’ve posted this information elsewhere. The answers are there for those who have the capacity to see it.
Like I said a few posts ago, this is all becoming tiresome, particularly in the case of the small handful of people who are currently continuing this thread.
To the rest of you small band of anagonists: I’m going off to play now and probably won’t be back on until sometime tomorrow or tomorrow evening. Rant amongst yourselves and perhaps some new interesting posters will come along by the time I return.
It’s the honesty Stupid, the honesty. Why is this the most ignored aspect of this whole thread???
Run, Forrest! Run!
We’ve fed this one enough already. We should have known better.
I didn’t say you were a jerk for thinking I corrected you; I implied that you were freaking obtuse for using your precious and limited posting time to focus on that, the least important aspect of the post that you were responding to.
Oh, I am; I just flew off the handle and responded to that particular post as soon as I read it, instead of finishing the page. My bad.
Whatever. I suppose I just place my priorities differently than you place yours.
You can’t begin to imagine how devastated I was to read that. :rolleyes:
I’m right there with you in finding things tiresome; we probably differ considerably in our opinions of the proximate cause, however.
How oddly apt.
Hmm, I recall seeing something in a recent movie about a Buckleberry Fairy…