# Do you like Kanye West?

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-like-kanye-west/746228
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [February 15, 2016, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-like-kanye-west/746228 "2016-02-15T22:08:15Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Chihuahua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dec6dc/32.png) [@Chihuahua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chihuahua)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2016, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-like-kanye-west/746228/81 "2016-02-16T16:47:56Z")

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Kanye West is a pathological narcissist and I hope he gets stranded on an island where humans are hunted for sport.

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### Author: ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-like-kanye-west/746228/82 "2016-02-16T16:56:58Z")

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> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#):
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> Because there is such a thing as a global culture. Particularly this century. And that includes knowing both about Kanye West and about the Raid movies. Not knowing this stuff makes you culturally poorer, not better.

At the risk of sounding even older than I am, fuck that. I don’t give a shit about opera, mime, soccer, Kanye West, Raid movies (never of heard of until just now), and about 10,000 other things other people enjoy. I’ve got a limited number of years left, and I’ll be damned if learning about\* global culture\* is on my bucket list. I’m happy people have found things they enjoy. I’ve found things I enjoy. We don’t all have to know the same people or be aware of the same music. One of the options on this poll, by the way, was “Who?” I acknowledge there are artists in the world I might enjoy if I took the time to listen to their music. Mr. West might be one of them. But I honestly don’t care enough to find out. There is no hole in my musical soul that needs to be more full.

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### Author: ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2016, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-like-kanye-west/746228/83 "2016-02-16T17:03:42Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> At the risk of sounding even older than I am, fuck that. I don’t give a shit about opera, mime, soccer, Kanye West, Raid movies (never of heard of until just now), and about 10,000 other things other people enjoy. I’ve got a limited number of years left, and I’ll be damned if learning about\* global culture\* is on my bucket list. I’m happy people have found things they enjoy. I’ve found things I enjoy. We don’t all have to know the same people or be aware of the same music. One of the options on this poll, by the way, was “Who?” I acknowledge there are artists in the world I might enjoy if I took the time to listen to their music. Mr. West might be one of them. But I honestly don’t care enough to find out. There is no hole in my musical soul that needs to be more full.

I’m not saying that you have to be an expert on any of those things, but most people knows there’s such a person as Verdi, Marcel Marceau or Pelé. And if you draw a blank on any of these three names, well, that’s nothing to be proud of.

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### Author: ![Chihuahua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dec6dc/32.png) [@Chihuahua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chihuahua)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-like-kanye-west/746228/84 "2016-02-16T17:09:13Z")

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> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#):
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> I’m not saying that you have to be an expert on any of those things, but most people knows there’s such a person as Verdi, Marcel Marceau or Pelé. And if you draw a blank on any of these three names, well, that’s nothing to be proud of.

Who put you in charge of dictating the global canon?

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### Author: ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-like-kanye-west/746228/85 "2016-02-16T17:09:38Z")

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> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#):
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> I’m not saying that you have to be an expert on any of those things, but most people knows there’s such a person as Verdi, Marcel Marceau or Pelé. And if you draw a blank on any of these three names, well, that’s nothing to be proud of.

But Raid Movies? [GOOGLE] Indonesian martial arts action films? Seriously? Where might I run across that unless I’m into martial arts action films. Which I am not.

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### Author: ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-like-kanye-west/746228/86 "2016-02-16T17:09:54Z")

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> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#):
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> I’m not saying that you have to be an expert on any of those things, but most people knows there’s such a person as Verdi, Marcel Marceau or Pelé. And if you draw a blank on any of these three names, well, that’s nothing to be proud of.

Which has fuck-all to do with recognizing a current rap singer or a series of martial arts action films.

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### Author: ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2016, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-like-kanye-west/746228/87 "2016-02-16T17:11:08Z")

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> [@Chihuahua](#):
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> Who put you in charge of dictating the global canon?

Oh, I’m sorry, do you need me to add “imo” to every phrase I write so I won’t offend your delicate sensibilities? imo?

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### Author: ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2016, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-like-kanye-west/746228/88 "2016-02-16T17:11:46Z")

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> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#):
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> Verdi, Marcel Marceau or Pelé. And if you draw a blank on any of these three names, well, that’s nothing to be proud of.

I am proud to say that I have not heard of any of these rappers. I’m not into rap. Nor have I heard of this Kenya West or this [“bitch”](http://www.tmz.com/2016/02/12/kanye-west-taylor-swifts-song-bitch-sex/) Taylor Swift that he wants to fuck.

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### Author: ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2016, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-like-kanye-west/746228/89 "2016-02-16T17:12:43Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> But Raid Movies? [GOOGLE] Indonesian martial arts action films? Seriously? Where might I run across that unless I’m into martial arts action films. Which I am not.

Where do you hang out on the internet that you’ve never heard of them? They were all the rage a couple of years back!

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### Author: ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2016, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-like-kanye-west/746228/90 "2016-02-16T17:14:38Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> Which has fuck-all to do with recognizing a current rap singer or a series of martial arts action films.

It does. Not recognizing somebody very popular and well known is not a great thing.

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### Author: ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2016, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-like-kanye-west/746228/91 "2016-02-16T17:15:43Z")

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> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#):
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> I’m not saying that you have to be an expert on any of those things, but most people knows there’s such a person as Verdi, Marcel Marceau or Pelé. And if you draw a blank on any of these three names, well, that’s nothing to be proud of.

I understand, and don’t completely disagree. For the record, I have heard of Kanye West, but just don’t know his music. Like I have heard of Pelé but never seen him play. I’ve heard of Marceau, but couldn’t pick him out of a line up. I"m not “proud” or “not proud” of not knowing Kayne’s music, just reacting to the notion (not necessarily yours) that it’s unbelievable in this day and age and global culture etc, that some of us are in the dark about his particular craft. I understand it, I have a brother who honestly couldn’t tell you who Ken Griffy Jr. is.

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### Author: ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2016, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-like-kanye-west/746228/92 "2016-02-16T17:16:09Z")

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> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#):
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> Where do you hang out on the internet that you’ve never heard of them? They were all the rage a couple of years back!

Um, in the grown-up parts of the Web? Like here, and some Facebook.

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### Author: ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2016, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-like-kanye-west/746228/93 "2016-02-16T17:16:50Z")

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> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#):
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> Where do you hang out on the internet that you’ve never heard of them? They were all the rage a couple of years back!

Here. That’s about it since Andrew Sullivan hung up his keyboard.

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### Author: ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-like-kanye-west/746228/94 "2016-02-16T17:17:59Z")

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> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#):
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> That’s… not a good thing. There’s people in remote Indonesian villages who know about Kanye West. At some point being this disconnected from the zeitgeist is something you should really, really, consider looking after.

I’ll bet he’s more popular that [del]Jesus Christ[/del] The Beatles.

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### Author: ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-like-kanye-west/746228/95 "2016-02-16T17:19:25Z")

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> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#):
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> Where do you hang out on the internet that you’ve never heard of them? They were all the rage a couple of years back!

Not on martial arts action film buff sites, that’s for sure.

I cruise the SDMB and follow interesting links from many different places, to many different places. Not once has a Raid movie come up.

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### Author: ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-like-kanye-west/746228/96 "2016-02-16T17:21:22Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Not on martial arts action film buff sites, that’s for sure.
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> I cruise the SDMB and follow interesting links from many different places, to many different places. Not once has a Raid movie come up.

Even in the Dope there’s [been](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=647117) threads devoted to it.

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### Author: ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-like-kanye-west/746228/97 "2016-02-16T17:28:36Z")

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> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#):
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> Even in the Dope there’s [been](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=647117) threads devoted to it.

All I need to see is this -

> [@SDMB](#):
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> The Raid: A violent Indonesian martial arts movie

15 posts, 4 years ago.

Absolutely zero reason for me to retain that information.

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### Author: ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-like-kanye-west/746228/98 "2016-02-16T17:30:50Z")

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> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#):
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> Even in the Dope there’s [been](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=647117) threads devoted to it.

I’ve never seen that thread before. I’m afraid I must apologize for not reading every single thread here because I do have a life I must administer.

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### Author: ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2016, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-like-kanye-west/746228/99 "2016-02-16T17:44:28Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> All I need to see is this -  
> 15 posts, 4 years ago.
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> Absolutely zero reason for me to retain that information.

Sure. My point still remains… it’s not some obscure reference you couldn’t possibly have ever heard of. It’s popular enough to have it’s own thread in here.

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### Author: ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2016, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-you-like-kanye-west/746228/100 "2016-02-16T17:47:05Z")

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It is obscure enough to have been noticed by our resident film buff once, for twenty minutes, four years ago.

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